Paladin said:Quote God gave his children to Jesus to develope into the sheep of his pasture. They were “bought with a price.” He “inherited the nations” according to prophecy.Exactly! If He inherited the nations then they are HIS. You belong to Christ!!Paladin said:Quote And it was Jesus that makes a difference between himself and God. “If any man…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 21 2009,23:58)Quote (thethinker @ July 21 2009,10:59)Paladin said:Quote God built all things, but Jesus built a house.Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?Try a remedial course in TRUTH.The “house” that Christ builds is the people of God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,14:07)WJ……….Jesus said the Father was greater then He, to deny this is to deny what Jesus said.  Jesus said He could do nothing of Himself , do you believe this . Jesus plainly said the ROCK that revealed to Peter the truth was the Rock that was in Heaven , the FATHERm and that was the Rock He would build the…[Read more]

CB said:Quote The “all” in verse 10 is applied to power also!Ye are complete in who? Jesus ChristAnd Jesus Christ is the head of all principality and “all” power.All power is all power, it’s not some power, or most power, it’s ALL power.CB said,Exactly! Jesus has ALL power and authority. On account of this anti-trinitarians cannot win the argumen…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,11:20)Hi TT, Yes you spiced up scripture with a few ideas of your own.But you need to learn the order of things. God is the head of Christ who is the head of man…Nick,Are you saying that we have two Lords and two shepherds?thinker

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,11:47)Jesus…………Said in this way you shall prey ” (our) Father in Heaven Holy be (thy) name, (thy) kingdom come (thy) WILL be done, give (us) this day (OUR) daily bread, forgive (US) of our trespasses and lead (US) not into temptation, But deliver (US) from the Evil, for (Thine) is the Kingdom and the Power and…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 21 2009,19:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 21 2009,18:43)Do a study and see for yourself, the word is exclusively practiced on the Father and Jesus and recieved by the Father and Jesus in the NT.This should also be quite troubling to the anti-trinitarians.As a Trinitarian, it was troubling to me that the third person of the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,14:22)To all……….All who teach and preach Jesus as a GOD are turning Jesus into the MAN OF SIN and are committing IDOLATRY. You shall have (NO) other GODS besides ME, said the eternal Father the GOD of all creation, who Jesus worshiped and obeyed, and called Him FATHER, and when he left He said plainly i am going to…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote thinker…… “unless the LORD shall build the house the weary builders build in vain”. ” Hear o Israel the LORD our GOD is (ONE) LORD”.Yes Gene. Except the Lord build the house. Jesus is the lord and Hebrews 3 says that He built the house. Do you not trust the author to the Hebrews. It clearly says that Jesus is “counted worthy”…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,07:28)Quote (thethinker @ July 21 2009,03:16)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2009,11:35)Hi TT, Jesus is the good shepherd.You are right in that you should not have two gods. Jesus is not our God but our Lord, the Christ and Son OF God.Do you agree with Peter or is his view unacceptable?If Christ is our Lord then God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,09:03)Hi, So Jesus means God saves.God does indeed save and through His son Jesus.It's not the Father's name. Where in scripture is the Father called “Jesus?”thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,11:08)Hi TT,Jesus is the Head of the church and Lord of all ……..under God.Lord of all under God is a contradiction. There is only one Lord.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,10:56)Hi TT, Indeed the Son of God has been given all authority by God. So he is not that God.If He has ALL authority then it is of Him you ask for something? This makes Him God. Your admission that Jesus has ALL authority does not help your case.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,11:02)Hi TT, So God was not in Christ when the church was being built., They were not one at that time?Implication never proves anything.It is Christ's church. He Himself builds it. It is His house and His flesh and blood (Eph. 5)thinker

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,06:53)thinker……….Abraham was (reckoned) or Counted as righteous , does it say He was righteous or reckoned or counted as righteous. “For God looked for (ONE) righteous man and found none , no not even one, wherefore he took it upon his own arm to bring salvation”.  Therefore GOD was (in) Jesus through the…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote God built all things, but Jesus built a house.Heb 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?Try a remedial course in TRUTH.The “house” that Christ builds is the people of God the Church. Therefore, God built everything but the church. So God does NOT…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus siad to Marty:Quote BTW, you totally ignore that Jesus said only he has seen the Father. Yet John tells us in two other places that “no man” has seen the Father.When did Jesus see the Father if it was not before he came in the likeness of sinful flesh?That sets the tone of the chapter don't you think?WJ,Excellent point bro! Hard…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 21 2009,06:22)thinker……….The reason He Hears us is because it's the (SAME) Spirit we Communicate to him and GOD the Father with. Are we who have that (SAME) Spirit of the FATHER in us,  as Jesus does GOD'S, as God is also. Being a Child of the ONE and (ONLY) TRUE GOD , does not equate equality. Jesus did not think to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,06:58)Hi WJ, If Jesus told the Jews to serve God alone why do you correct him and say we should also worship him?This is what we have been trying to say Nick. You cannot worship God without worshiping Jesus.thinker

Paladin said:Quote This idea of homophobia is a lie developed by homosexuals to make others feel guilty for saying anything about the issue.Paladin,For once I heartily agree with you. The term “homophobe” is meant to belittle Christians and is no different from the labels pagans have given Christians from the beginning.thinker