bodhitharta said:Quote Then why does the blessing happen after Ishmael and Hagar were already gone.Exactly! Ishmael is GONE! The blessing had nothing to do with salvation. After Ishmael was gone God said to Abraham, “Offer up Isaac your ONLY son.”How many times are you going to make me repeat this? The covenant blessings came through Abraham,…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 26 2009,04:35)Thinker………No brother their ONE Shepard , but he is (NOT) the owner of the Sheep , there is only (ONE) owner and that is GOD the Father. The Father has put us in the custody of Jesus, it is very much like the analogy of the vine, the vine is part of the branches, but the life water (spirit) is given by one…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 26 2009,03:41)Quote (thethinker @ July 26 2009,03:23)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2009,10:17)Quote (thethinker @ July 14 2009,09:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2009,09:32)Hi TT, To divert Certainly God demands that all his servants be honoured just as He, is especially His son, because they represent Him and speak His…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Where is this Kingdom you speak of and where is the lion laying with the lamb?Where is our King and where is Peace?“Who has delivered us from the domain of darkness and has conveyed us into the kingdom of His dear Son (Colossians 1:13.” The lion and the lamb metaphors refer to prophecy that has already been fulfilled. sorry.thinker

thinker said to Nick:Stephen did not ask the Father to receive His spirit. He did not ask the Father to forgive his killers. Why?bodhitharta contradicts himself saying:Quote Because Jesus was his leader not his God. When did stephen call Jesus “God”?Jesus was his leader but not his God? Stehen acknowledged Jesus as His God by asking Him to…[Read more]

bodhitharta said said:Quote What you are saying is impossible God is everyone's God, who do you think blessed Ishmael?“I AM the God of Abraham, ISAAC and Jacob.”thinker

Quote (Stu @ July 25 2009,20:38)Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,19:01)Cato said:Quote I think it is rather absurd to view homosexuality as a choice.  Having sex is a choice but your orientation is not. Some are “oriented” toward being pedafiles. thinkerWhat does that have to do with it?  There are far more straight people who are pedophiles t…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote How can the God of Abraham(Ishmael's Father) not be the God Ishmael(Abrahams's son)?Because Ishmael was cast out of the covenant which I have shown you a thousand times. After this God consistently identified Himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. After Ishmael was cast out Isaac became Abraham's only son. This is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,13:22)Hi TT, Indeed one with Jesus and now together.Stephen did not ask the Father to receive His spirit. He did not ask the Father to forgive his killers. Why?thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 14 2009,10:17)Quote (thethinker @ July 14 2009,09:36)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 14 2009,09:32)Hi TT, To divert Certainly God demands that all his servants be honoured just as He, is especially His son, because they represent Him and speak His words.  But that does not mean He wants men to worship His Son or His prophets.…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ July 26 2009,02:58)Quote (thethinker @ July 24 2009,05:52)Quote (Gene @ July 24 2009,04:49)Thinker………..IN AGREEMENT, NOT ONE AND THE SAME BEING. God was (IN) Jesus through (HIS) Spirit, and that does not make Jesus GOD, no more then it makes Us GOD who have His Spirit in them. GOD'S Spirit in us causes us to (IMAGE) HIM (Not)…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ July 25 2009,17:50)“Fully” God, “fully” man.Words have completely lost their meaning!See my reply on new thread “transendence versus immanence.”thinker

bodhitharta said:Quote You are a polytheist and you question me? You tamper with the word of God yourself imagining all sorts of things you said Jesus has already returned and yet we see no lion laying with the lamb and sin runs amock. I have asked you about this before but you run from me seeking easier debates with others but I assure you if you…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 25 2009,13:41)Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,11:56)Quote (Gene @ July 25 2009,08:57)Thinker……….Jesus said to Prey like this, OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN (do you see Jesus who is in heaven here), and again He told His disciples when they pray to go in their closet and shut the door and (YOUR FATHER WHO SEES IN…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 25 2009,13:47)Quote (thethinker @ July 25 2009,11:42)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,21:32)Hi TT, Three distinct PARTS??Yes! How many times do you want me to repeat it?thinkerThe fact is that you don't believe in a solitary being called God, right?Exactly! God is a community and not a solitary being. And He made man a…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Assuming you are correct how does pre-existing Abraham make someone God is Satan “God” to you as well and how about every single angel and demon are they all your God?Why did Jesus even bother saying he was the SON of GOD?Why not say” I am of the collective of God and we decided for me to come as a sacrifice to the men of…[Read more]

Quote (datguy @ July 25 2009,12:22)HI TT, is it that you think Lord means God? I hope that is not the case. Women of the bible commonly refer to men as their Lord. Christ being a son over his own house was made Lord and Christ by God. Acts 2:36..Heb 3:6dg,The term “Lord” in reference to Christ means “God.” And i find it interesting that you would…[Read more]

Quote (datguy @ July 25 2009,12:22)HI TT, is it that you think Lord means God? I hope that is not the case. Women of the bible commonly refer to men as their Lord. Christ being a son over his own house was made Lord and Christ by God. Acts 2:36..Heb 3:6dg,The term “Lord” in reference to Christ means “God.” And i find it interesting that you would…[Read more]

Cato said:Quote I think it is rather absurd to view homosexuality as a choice.  Having sex is a choice but your orientation is not. Some are “oriented” toward being pedafiles. thinker

Quote (Gene @ July 25 2009,08:57)Thinker……….Jesus said to Prey like this, OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN (do you see Jesus who is in heaven here), and again He told His disciples when they pray to go in their closet and shut the door and (YOUR FATHER WHO SEES IN SECRETE WILL REWARD YOU OPENLY. Another thing who was Jesus our example praying to…[Read more]