Quote (942767 @ Aug. 01 2009,10:24)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,08:15)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 01 2009,06:18)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,05:20)Marty sdaid to WJ:Quote The Spriit of God my Father dwells with in me by His Spirit as my helper and my Lord Jesus dwells within me by His Word.This looks like the trinity to me. If it walks like a…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote You seem to say that if He were a begotten Son before His resurrection then He couldn't have been made lower than the angels.  You forget that the monogenes Son humbled Himself to take on the form of man and become a bondservant.  It was then that He was made lower than the angels.  He was higher than the angels before th…[Read more]

Lighternup said:Quote Thinker,If you would, put up your three scriptures that you refer to regarding when He was begotten please.  Read them carefully though because I do not think they are telling you when the “today” was.Kathi,This annoys me. We have been over this several times. I would rather you have said “I know the scriptures you are…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,19:31)Hi TT, There is no division between Jesus and Paul.Jesus taught the Jews about their Law and opened the minds of all since then to new life in His Spirit. That Spirit was given when he returned to the Father and the realization of that promise was shown through his brothers work under his leading in his…[Read more]

On another thread bodhitharta said:Quote Moses was called the saviour to and so was every other messenger sent to redeem God's people.Jesus is “counted worthy” of far more glory than Moses.Quote 3 For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. 4 For every house is…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Moses was called the saviour to and so was every other messenger sent to redeem God's people.Apparently you have not seen the “glory of the builder” thread. Jesus is “counted worthy” of far more glory than Moses.Quote 3 For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more…[Read more]

Paladin,Please answer my last post or concede by default.thinker

Bodhitharta said:Quote No, they are not the words of Jesus or he would say “Jesus says” but that is not what he says or “Jesus has revealed to me” but often he says ” I, not the Lord”Paul did not “often” say “I, not the Lord.” He said it only one time on a particular issue that was NOT related to the new covenant. The new covenant gospel was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,08:59)Hi TT, You doubt the sovereignty of The God of Jesus? Jn20Nick,I made a simple request. Show that Christ's Father is King over Him. Show that you are a king over your son. As a child you had authority over your son. But even then you were not his king. Absolute sovereignty has no degrees. Jesus is King of…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote Assume for the sake of the illustration, the thinker has died and gone to the bosom of the Father, where all things are made clear.Assume, for the sake of the illustration, that the thinker has learned something hitherto not believed by the thinker, and he decides to share it with us through inspiration, as he  “thinks” it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,08:53)Hi TT, He surely is. There is no greater authority under his God.Show where God is Jesus' King. It's never said in Scripture that Jesus has a King over Him. God is His Father. A father is not a king. Chapter and verse please.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,08:29)Hi TT, So there are two Jesus's and he is not the same yesterday today and forever?Do men no longer needs a mediator?- they do till the remnant is saved.“This I say then, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.” Jesus is NOT a man now. All men need a mediator. But He finished the work. It's not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2009,08:31)Hi 94, The binity became a trinity and it has never stopped evolving since then as far as human imagination can extend. Naturally there is little agreement among them.Nick,Is Jesus King of kings and Lord of lords? Yes or no?thinker

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 01 2009,06:26)Quote (thethinker @ July 31 2009,09:43)TC27 said:Quote Marty,He did not correct them because he was still God even if he was in a more humble state at that period in time. It was only a temporary humility to become man. He knew and looked forward to his exaltation.This is so clearly taught in scripture it makes…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 01 2009,06:18)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,05:20)Marty sdaid to WJ:Quote The Spriit of God my Father dwells with in me by His Spirit as my helper and my Lord Jesus dwells within me by His Word.This looks like the trinity to me. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.thinkerHi thethinker:A trinitarian…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 01 2009,06:21)Thinker ……….Show us where Jesus never said that the Father is (GREATER) the HIM then. Jesus is my brother (exactly like me) only without ever sinning. because the FATHER was With him at berth, and Keep Him from sinning. The difference between me and You is I am not and Idolater , I have ONLY ONE TRUE GOD , as…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ Aug. 01 2009,06:52)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 01 2009,05:56)Jodi Lee said:Quote By serving Jesus, whom God appointed, and looking to him as a master, I am following the one true Master, God the Father.Jodi lee,Exactly! Jesus called this honoring Him EVEN AS the Father is honored. So I rephrase my question. Jesus said that one…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote By serving Jesus, whom God appointed, and looking to him as a master, I am following the one true Master, God the Father.Jodi lee,Exactly! Jesus called this honoring Him EVEN AS the Father is honored. So I rephrase my question. Jesus said that one cannot love and serve two masters . So who do you love and serve more. God or…[Read more]

bodhitharta said:Quote Paul said Jesus became a curse for us then says…You say Paul was a deceiver and a liar. Why would you invoke him?thinker

bodhitharta said:Quote John was killed to, do you think his death was less meaningful. He had his head chopped off and before that I'm sure he was beaten as well and he had to baptize Jesus so if you remove the importance of John you lose the grace of JesusOkay so let's re-write Titus 2:13 to fit your view:Quote …looking for the blessed hope and…[Read more]