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    Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,Please note that in the interlinear you linked to there are the words “messengers of him,” “chariot of him,” “rebuke of you” et al. There are two being spoken of here.Kathi,Originally you said that there are two people involved in creation. You said,Quote Notice this passage about creation and see that there are two…[Read more]

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    WorshippingJesus said to Kathi:Quote What? It clearly says there were “NO DEPTHS” period! No Depths means ‘Zero”, which clearly says that he was there before even Genesis 1:1, 2 which shows there was a face of the deep.You're right WJ. I checked it out and the Hebrew Interlinear and all the online translations concur that Wisdom existed before.…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Cato said:Quote Homosexuality and pedophilia are nor the same.  Pedophilia affects both straight and gays.  It is however overwhelmingly male yet victims are both male and female.  If all homosexuals were suddenly removed from earth there would still be pedophiles.  Also it would hardly make a dent in cases of rape and other sexual abuses of wom…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Stu said:Quote Any conjecture out there on an explanation for this absurd claim that gay people are more predatory?See the thread I started titled “Homosexual pedophilia in ancient Rome” (though I meant to say Greece). All the facts about ancient homosexual predators are documented.thinker

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 05 2009,04:32)Quote Estimates of the occurrence of exclusive homosexuality range from >1% to 10% of the population, usually finding there are slightly more gay men than lesbians.SourceWhat's your source?I wasn't far off. Even if we go with 10% there is still a whole lot of homosexuals who prey on children given their small…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 05 2009,14:03)Are you talking about these Christians?Quote A survey of U.S. Catholic dioceses conducted by the Associated Press … found that 1,341 clergy members have been accused of molesting children since the 1950s.SourceSeems like Christianity is still changing the world.Yes Christianity is still changing the world…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2009,02:48)Keith and Thinker,Why does it say “You” did thus and so and then “He” did thus and so, if there weren't two cooperating in creation?Kathi,Please see the online Hebrew Interlinear. The verses in our translations that say “He” would be better translated “The One who”: Quote Bless the Lord, O my soul! O Lord my…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2009,02:45)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 04 2009,10:31)WorshippingJesus wrote:Quote The point is simple, these guys or gals also are predators and they have an agenda to make everyone like themselves.I don't know of any other predator that has such an agenda do you?Really?  Do you have a scripture for that or an…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic Azusa street in the forum Faith 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Stu @ July 02 2009,07:57)God does nothing that has no alternative explanation.If people regrew limbs there would be something to be amazed by.Nothing like that ever happens.  Such healing is the vision of the religiously deluded.StuartStu,You said that God does nothing that has no alternative explanation. I thought you were an athiest. ???thinker

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 05 2009,02:37)thinker,Do you really think that “unwanted sexual advances” are perpetrated more frequently by homosexuals than heterosexual males?  In other words, do you think sexual harassment is a uniquely homosexual phenomenon?You appear to have reading comprehension problems too. I said only that it goes on more than…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 05 2009,02:31)WorshippingJesus wrote:Quote The point is simple, these guys or gals also are predators and they have an agenda to make everyone like themselves.I don't know of any other predator that has such an agenda do you?Really?  Do you have a scripture for that or an official study?  Or are you just making that up b…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 04 2009,08:05)Maybe you should add a companion poll asking women how many times they have been approached by a (non-spousal) man for sex.  Should be enlightening! :DSeriously, unless you were forced to have sex with a gay person, I don't see what your point is.Quote An estimated 91% of victims of rape are female, 9% are…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Cato said:Quote ome on folks it is obvious that there are perverted twisted individuals who fall into any sexual orientation, but that is not because of their basic orientation but other factors that make them hurt or abuse others.Cato,Your statement is fair and reasonable. Now get Stu to listen. He chose the avatar with the ape covering its eyes…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Stu said:Quote These ARE victims you are discussing now.  What are they victims of?  Homosexuality or predation?They are victims of homosexual predation. You were the first to divide between predators when you said that heterosexuality has victims and homosexuality does not. What are they victims of? Heterosexuality or predation? The sword cuts b…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta said to Country boy:Quote as it is with the name Jesus or Yeshuah it means the salvation of God it doesn't mean Jesus is God it means God Saves just like the name Joshua.bd,I love it when anti-trinitarians bring up Joshua because it gives me the chance to blow away their theories. Jesus is presented as being superior to Joshua because…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Homosexuality 16 years, 11 months ago

    Quote (Paladin @ Aug. 04 2009,06:27)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 04 2009,06:17)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 04 2009,05:53)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 03 2009,13:32)Stu said:Quote Does thinker actually have an example of how homosexuality has victims, that does not generally also apply to heterosexuality?  Most sexual predators are straight I have…[Read more]

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    Lightenup said:Quote Hi Thinker and Keith,Notice in this passage about creation and see it written as if there are two people involved:Psalm 104 Bless the Lord, O my soul! O Lord my God, You are very great; You are clothed with splendor and majesty, 2 Covering Yourself with light as with a cloak, Stretching out heaven like a tent curtain. 3 He…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2009,13:44)Hi WJ, How many gods do you have if Jesus has a God?That's it Nick? WJ presents all those scriptures for you and this is your reply? I should say “this is your no reply?” You should take this matter more seriously for the One you deny is your Judge.thinker

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 04 2009,17:50)Quote (Christian Biker @ Aug. 03 2009,22:32)Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 04 2009,12:04)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 03 2009,10:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2009,06:11)Hi TT, So angels never spoke for God? You have read of the burning bush where the angel spoke for God?The Angels of God often do this as direct…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2009,09:48)Hi Jodi, So the Spirit of God in Christ and his followers gives them the good fruit of God's nature.God will thus be all in all if men will obey Jesus and submit to rebirth from aboveIsaac was born according to the Spirit from his physical birth. Men cannot “choose” to be born of the Spirit. Jesus said that…[Read more]

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