Mikeboll said:Quote If YHVH being at David’s right hand is doing the works then that means that David to everyone else is “equal” to YHVH, unless you are saying they are David’s works and not YHVHs.The word “adonay” means “MY Lord” (God). Are you saying that YHWH is calling Himself, “MY Lord”? Or are you saying that YHWH said to David, “MY Lord at…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 07 2011,20:49)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,13:15)Irene said:Quote I don't believe that there is an in between, after Jesus rose from the death.  Also the doors were shut when he appeared to the Apostles, they thought they had seen a Ghost….and Maria Magdalene did not recognize Jesus either.  Would you not think that t…[Read more]

Irene said:Quote I don't believe that there is an in between, after Jesus rose from the death.  Also the doors were shut when he appeared to the Apostles, they thought they had seen a Ghost….and Maria Magdalene did not recognize Jesus either.  Would you not think that they would if He had the same flesh and blood body which He died in?Peace a…[Read more]

Pierre said:Quote KJcould you explain;Jn 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’Lk 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see;did Christ went to his father in betwe…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 06 2011,02:31)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 05 2011,10:12)It was at that time that He became a “life giving SPIRIT.”JackWhat does this mean, that he wasn't a “Life giving Spirit” until he ascended?What was he when he went to Sheol and conquered death?WJKeith,Jesus could not become a quickening spirit until he Himself…[Read more]

ED j said:Quote Hi Jack,If Jesus' somatikos wasn't transformed, how was he able to walk through walls and disappear, prior to the ascension?The same way Philip was able to instantly disappear from the Eunuch's sight and instantly appear at Azotus…by the power of God.After Jesus supernaturally appeared in the room it says, “And many other miracles…[Read more]

Irene said:Quote Hi!  The reason why I believe that Jesus rose from the dead in a Spiritual body is because of these Scripture in1Cr 15:42   So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:  1Cr 15:43   It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:  1C…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 05 2011,11:50)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 05 2011,10:25)WILL KEITH PULL A MIKEBOLL AND IGNORE ALL THE SCHOLARSHIP INCLUDING THE SEVENTY JEWISH SCHOLARS THAT JESUS AND THE APOSTLES QUOTED?Really Jack?       You're just like JA.  I don't even have to be a part of the thread for you to obsess about me.  I'm flattered.   FYI,…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Feb. 05 2011,16:56)Keith!  There are two Scriptures I know of that states this Mar 10:45   For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.  1 Timothy 2″6 who gave Himself as ransom for all, to be testified in due time.In order to the ransom to take effect, His body ha…[Read more]

TO ALL:On Romans 6:6 Calvin's commentary online says:Quote The body of sin, which he afterwards mentions, does not mean flesh and bones, but the corrupted mass; for man, left to his own nature, is a mass made up of sin. The Editor's note:The “body of sin” is a Hebraism, and signifies a sinful body. It has no special reference to the material bod…[Read more]

Keith,First, your interpretation of Paul's statement that our 'body of humiliation' is the physical body and that it will be transformed cannot be true because the physical bodies of the Philippians were not transformed. They died and their bodies returned to dust.Second, if there is so much as one example in scripture where 'soma' is used to…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,05:45)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2011,13:03)would you not agree that you try to push your opinion first then the scriptures,??No! I am taking the scripture for what it says…The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the “EXACT REPRESENTATION” of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 04 2011,03:14)MikeI have one question for you.Does Jesus have a body?WJNo Keith! Jesus does not have a body in the way you define the word "body." Paul said that our "soma" will be transformed. He did not say that our "somatikos" will be transformed. The word "soma" is not the word for the physical body. It is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 03 2011,13:41)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 03 2011,01:37)Those who cling to the statement “My Father is gretar than I” refuse to accept that that was Christ's temporary status. He preexisted as God but then took the form of a servant. Then He was exalted to His rightful equality with God again.And there you have it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 03 2011,12:47)Koo Jdon't feel bad,just finish your beerPierre:D Whatever!

Keith said:Quote If you do not believe our bodies will be raised and glorified and made like unto his glorious body then your faith is in vain according to the Apostle Paul. 1 Cor 15:17Keith,Read it again. Paul said that if Christ is not risen our faith is vain and we are yet in our sins. He did NOT say that if our flesh and blood is not raised we…[Read more]

thankful said;Quote jesus said the father is greater than he.He said that before He was exalted.Roo

Quote (thankful @ Feb. 03 2011,10:19)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 03 2011,13:06)thankful said:Quote ALL sentient beings, in the day they are created, are, sons of God…….There is no scripture which says that all sentient beings are sons of god. hebrews 1 says that angels are not sons of God, “To which of the angels did He ever say, 'You are my…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 28 2011,10:21)Where is Jesus called our “despotes”?Don't play stupid Mike! You know very well that Jesus Christ is called “our ONLY Despotes and Kurios” in Jude 4.Jack

Mike said:Quote Hi Jack,Christ is STILL “under God”.Then please make sense of paul's statement that Christ's WILL BE made subject to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:28)Quote  28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself also WILL BE subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.Note that it is not…[Read more]