Quote (david @ Aug. 30 2009,09:59)Phil 2:6,“Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.”(NIV)“who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, “ (NASB)“who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be gra…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,11:12)Hi TT, Really? So what of the book of ACTS? That he died for you is a historical and scriptural fact.Agreeing it is true saves nobody.“Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord SHALL BE SAVED” (Acts 2:21). It is not the “gospel” of Nick that saves.thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 01 2009,11:05)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 01 2009,11:00)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 31 2009,09:32)Hi TT, Do believers teach from outside of scripture that God is a strange trinity?Even so, Christ's sacrificial death covers ALL SINS. A “strange” trinity would be a trinity that cannot be found in scripture. The Father, the Son…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 31 2009,09:35)In-fact TT,We can debate this topic if you would like that then simply agree and I will set it up or you can set it up, you can even decide who wins:)bd,Go ahead and set it up and get back to me. But I will debate only from scripture and from historical facts.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,11:02)Hi TT, But no humanly fashioned community trinity god is found there.It is of the speculations of menThen answer Hebrews chapter one where the Father calls the Son “God” and attributes creation to Him.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 31 2009,09:32)Hi TT, Do believers teach from outside of scripture that God is a strange trinity?Even so, Christ's sacrificial death covers ALL SINS. A “strange” trinity would be a trinity that cannot be found in scripture. The Father, the Son and the Spirit are found in scripture.thinker

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Hi BDIn your mind it did not happen. Maybe you do not understand as much as you think you do!Ask Jack or George on this sight if they believe what Jesus spoke happened!I do not claim to be an expert in Biblical Prophesy, but I know that Jesus was not speaking falsehoods and not a single word of his fell to the ground.WJ…[Read more]

Douglas wrote:Quote Firstly, why would he be an unbeliever? When are you a believer and when are you not?Bd is an unbeliever because he denies that Christ was crucified.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 29 2009,15:52)Hi BD, How can anyone be ready outside of rebirth into Jesus?Your own righteousness can only be as filthy rags.Let God dress you in clean garments.Zech 3, lk15The clean garments are Jesus himself which Nick denies. Nick's garments are as filthy as bd's.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 30 2009,09:03)Hi WJ, What is a believer? One who preaches a strange and unbiblical trinity god?Strange trinity god?Biblical trinity God:  God + God's own Son + God's own Spirit Strange trinity God: God + Nick + Nick”The Father judges no man but has committed all judgment to NICK that all men may honor NICK even as they…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 28 2009,10:37)Hi TT, No need . Just be reborn into Jesus.Don't be found as one of the enemies of Jesus when he returns with a sword.Jesus could not return with a sword against His people. If you believe this then you do not comprehend the gospel and you have not an ounce of truth in your being.thinker

Lightenup said:Quote Wow,Thinker, you are living in your own dream world and THAT is why you and Keith make such a good pair.  That is also why I move on because I get to a point when I have said what I believe God has for me to say.  I'm not really here to argue, but to seek out where to dig deeper and find what God has to show me and then p…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote We are told throughout the OT that it was YHWH ALONE who created the heavens and the earth.But the NT says that Christ is the creator (Hebrews 1; Colossians 1).Jodi Lee needs to come to terms with the fact that the NT explains the OT. No degree in rocket science is needed to comprehend this.thinker

Kathi said:Quote Keith and Thinker,A good pair you two make! TO KEITH:I am honored to be paired off with you   Jack

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2009,08:25)Keith and Thinker,A good pair you two make!  God bless you inspite of yourselves as you argue away.  I'm not into the arguing of the same points over and over.  You can reread my posts on those points instead of me repeating them.Thinker I hope your wife is ok from the car accident…that kind of thing re…[Read more]

Lightenup said”Quote Your resource did not make a conclusive decision as to whether the verb was passive or intransitive…did you miss that?  You did however go even further than your resource when you declared it to be intransitive.  He did not go that far.  He said that it depends wholly upon contextual factors and in some instances it may be…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 25 2009,09:17)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 24 2009,17:04)Hi LU, In light of Romans 8 can you tell us that the Spirit of Christ is not the Spirit of God in him?Hi Nick,See page 20, 2nd post from the top.  I have discussed Romans 8 there.  Please note that the Father's Spirit has no need to cry out “Abba Father” for the Father h…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,Whether or not your resource says middle or middle passive and mine say passive, neither say that the verb in question is in the active voice.  If it is the middle voice that can simply mean that Jesus participated in the action of raising up but was initiated externally.  So, He did not initiate His resurrection but o…[Read more]

TO KATHI:Kathi,This discussion has caused me to get out my Greek textbooks on the middle voice. The verses in Matthew 20:19 and 27:63 are indeed written in the middle voice. However, the middle may sometimes function as a “middle-passive.” I will get back to you on this. About the passive verb ἠγέρθη in John 2:22 please see the excerpt and link I…[Read more]

Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,Here is several translations of Matt 27:63 and none of them indicate that Jesus said He would raise Himself.  The word “Myself” is not in the verse.  “I will rise again” is in the passive voice. See here and click on the Greek Lexical Parser:Kathi,The lexical parser you use is wrong! The verb “egeiromai” is middle v…[Read more]