Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,10:24)Hi WJ, The Spirit takes us back to the teaching of Jesus. He never mentioned any trinity so the spirit you follow is not the Holy spirit?“Baptizing in the NAME of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.”Looks like a trinity to me.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 14 2009,05:09)Thinker………Your, “Trinitarian Christology” is nothing more than and endless Shell Game that never produced anything solid, Just contradictory concepts without solid Scriptural proofs. Problem is you are not bring (ALL) scripture to play when you makes your false assertions. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,21:47)Hi TT,One voice you say, unsupported by the teachings of God.Yet you base your ideas on the words of a false counselor like Bildad and his friends. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,17:49)Hi CA, So why do you offer the shifting sands of your tradition ahead of the rock of Scripture?Nick,”Shifting sands” you say? Trinitarianism solidly speaks with one voice. The “shifting sands” you speak of are from your own Arian traditions. You guys have no unified view of Jesus Christ. Some of you believe…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,12:00)Hi TT, It does not say that in the NASB so what version are you using?Nick,The KJV reads thus,Quote Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight. How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?It says that the stars are not pure in His sight…[Read more]

CA said:Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points.  Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club.CA,You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent Christology. And they will be allies with anyone who has Jesus under their thumb, even allies with a…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote John quotes Isaiah from Isa chapter 6 when Isaiah saw the Glory of YHWH who the Apostle John attributes to the Glory of Jesus.Yes WJ, The point you made has been made before by us and it has fallen on deaf ears. All anti-trinitarians, the whole Heinz 57 mix of them do not allow the new testament to interpret the old.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,11:01)Hi TT, Does he? Can you give us the quote?I gave you the reference. What more do you want? I also gave you what David said. Now, is God's image a worm in His sight?thinkerGood night!

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 13 2009,06:25)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 12 2009,19:43)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 12 2009,16:14)This article was first published in the USA Today, April 6th, 2005. Four years ago, Pope John Paul II appeared at one of the oldest mosques in the Islamic world, the Ummayad Mosque in Damascus, Syria. It is deeply cherished…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,10:02)Hi TT, So they had not spoken what is right of God. But Jb25 is about man not God.Nick,Read it again Nick. Bildad said that man is a worm in God's sight (25:5-6). Man is not a worm in God's sight. Therefore, Bildad spoke a lie about God. If I said that anti-trinitarians are heretics in Nick's sight I would…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,09:54)Hi TT, You find fault with scripture and dare to offer catholic speculations instead?Please explain Job 42:7-9.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,09:33)Hi TT, We would much rather expound scripture but speculations like trinity are more popular for discussion.Just as I thought. You cannot answer.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,09:30)hi TT, Jb is scriptural truth and contains no lies.Jesus took the form of a man. Please be accurate.The Bible contains lies spoken by men. Bildad spoke a lie when he said that the son of man was a “worm.” Bildad's counsel to Job was sinful and God commanded him and his friends to offer sacrifices for their…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,06:15)Hi TT, So the glory of the Sun moon and stars is too? You have to lay your own foundations when scripture is not helpful?So how do you apply Peter's statement “to Him be the glory both now and forever?”How do you apply this?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,06:16)Hi TT, Is it? How many gods then?There is no god the son in scripture so did you make it up?But there is a God the Word. He was also the Son. Sorry Nick that scripture does not employ your choice of words. thinker

Quote (katjo @ Sep. 13 2009,07:30)Dont like how it sounds in the King James? NIV Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great. HE APPEARED IN A BODY, was vindicated bt the spirit, was seen by the angels,was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world,was taken up in glory. Different words same meaning!! What's your version…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,06:17)Hi TT, So who is the God of Jesus?Read my post again. I said that the Father was Jesus' God but NOT His Lord or King. Jesus is the “the ONLY Sovereign,  King of kings and Lord of lords” (1 Timothy 6:14-15).thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 10 2009,19:07)Hi CA, You might need to remove Jb25 from your bible.Our God is not a man.Nick,It was Bildad who said that man was a “maggot” and that the son of man was a “worm” (Job 25). God condemned Bildad and his friends for what they said and commanded them to offer sacrifices for the sinful things they spoke (Job…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ Sep. 13 2009,06:32)Nick!! whats this scripture mean? I'll wait for a response-1 Timothy 3:16 and without controversy great is the mystery of godliness; GOD was manifest in the flesh,justified in the spirit,seen of angels, preached unto the gentiles,believed on in the world, received up in glory!!kat,God's becoming flesh is “without…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,06:10)Hi TT, It is not a matter of disproving something that is not taught in scripture.t8 and his source thinks that “God” in the qualitative sense disproves the trinity. If it was not a matter of disproving something that is not taught in scripture then why bother?thinker