Quote (Gene @ Sep. 15 2009,05:02)Thinker….”GOD was (IN) Christ reconciling the world unto himself, Do you see GOD was Christ there, and again Jesus said the FATHER was (IN) (IN) (IN) HIM not that  He was GOD. Think about what is written and don't add you false teachings to it. How do you  think GOD will be in (ALL) and THROUGH (ALL). He is a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 15 2009,04:47)Thinker…..There is (NO) GOD the SON, there is GOD (IN) the SON, Something you deluded trinitarians can't seem to get in to you heads. GOD is SPIRIT and was (INDWELLING) Jesus, or don't you believe what Jesus SAID the (FATHER WAS IN HIM)> Clear as a bell for anyone who has the SPIRIT of Truth in them. IMOpeace3…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote Jesus is NOT YHWH, scripture tells us directly that YHWH said He would BE to the Messiah as a FATHER. Those that teach Jesus as YHWH are spewing VOMIT out of their mouths, the vomit of ANTI Christ.Jodi Lee,For your information God said “I will be a Father” to David's son Solomon (2 samuel 7:14).  The author to the Hebrews…[Read more]

glad tidings said:Quote I think there's so many obvious scriptures that give solid evidence of the fact that Jesus is The Son of God, as  opposed to “God, the Son”.The expressions “the Son of God” and “God the Son” are equal terms.  Would anyone dispute that “the Son of Man” is also “Man the Son.” Anti-trinitarians must create ARTIFICIAL d…[Read more]

Quote (katjo @ Sep. 15 2009,03:14)THINKER—Rev.1 ;7 Behold he cometh with the  clouds;AND EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, AND THEY ASLO THAT PIERCED HIM, AND ALL KINDREDS OF THE EARTH SHALL WAIL BECAUSE OF HIM. EVEN SO, AMENThey did see Him.thinker

TK said:Quote Jesus said God is ONE!(John 17:11–:21–:23) Bless you, TKTK,Jesus did not say that God is one in the verses you give. He said “WE are one” referring to the Father and Himself. thinker

Nick said:Quote Hi Kat,God came in the vessel of His Son.Chapter and verse please. thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,07:23)Hi TT, Equal?? As t8 said if he is equal to God he is not God. You do claim two gods..or is it three?Now t8 is your authority? You don't practice what you preach! thinker

Jodi Lee said:Quote You can't make the glory that CHRIST, the human Messiah born of the seed of David, had with the Father before the world was, into WHATEVER YOU want it to be. You have to stick WITH what the scriptures tell us, which was that the CHRIST was in the beginning with the Father in the Fathers plan of how the Father would bring…[Read more]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,12:01)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,11:53)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,11:48)Hi TT, So you could not question catholic beliefs bacause BD is islamic?Hmmmm. An odd way of justifying deception by your fear of deceptionSo it doesn't concern you that bd has led a man away from the belief in Christ's…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,11:52)Hi TT, There is no such thing as antitrinitarianism. There is no trinity in scripture-game overYeah whatever.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,11:48)Hi TT, So you could not question catholic beliefs bacause BD is islamic?Hmmmm. An odd way of justifying deception by your fear of deceptionSo it doesn't concern you that bd has led a man away from the belief in Christ's crucifixion?thinker

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 14 2009,11:12)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 14 2009,10:34)Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36)CA said:Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points.  Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,11:22)Hi CA, You have discarded the words of life and yet advise others?Nick,If you look on the “No one believes in the trinity” thread you will see that bodhitharta has led efj to doubt that Jesus was crucified. This is why I could never be an anti-trinitarian. You should thank the Lord for protecting you from…[Read more]

Quote (Everlasting father Jesus @ Sep. 14 2009,07:53)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 13 2009,20:36)CA said:Quote You guys disagree with each other on a myriad of points.  Yet when it comes to the one Church Jesus established and left behind, you are all like an old boys' club.CA,You are correct. They do not have a unified voice or a coherent…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2009,06:38)Hi TT, So the Son is not God. He has his own glory.Or you have two gods?You do not deny that the Son receives EQUAL glory with His Father? Do I understand you correctly?thinker

Gene siad:Quote Jesus said (IF) I glorify (MYSELF) my Glory is (NOTHING). God the FATHER gloried Jesus, but not to His equal, as He says, “I give MY GLORY to NO MANJesus prayed that the Father would give Him the glory He had together with Him before the world began.What about this do you not understand?  thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 13 2009,10:00)Hi TT, Why should the faithful son not have glory? He asked for that glory and deserved it.2PETER 3 .18To HIM be the Glory.Who is the HIM referred to?Compare Jude 25Exactly! The faithful Son should have glory. At least you're better off than Gene. But note that it says that to Him be “THE glory.” The same…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 14 2009,04:26)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 07 2009,07:17)TO ALL:Our anti-trinitarian brothers and sisters correctly say that the God the Father is to receive the glory from men. A man must confess Jesus Christ as Lord “to the glory of God the Father.” This is not a problem for the trinitarian. But the scripture is replete with…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote If you are equal to God it means you are like God and therefore that makes you NOT God.Gobbledygook t8:Quote The I Am statement in the gospels being used to equate Jesus as the “I Am” in the Old Testament is a desperate attempt at trying to prove Jesus as God Almighty.The “I Am” in the old testament said He was the King of Israel…[Read more]