Rokkaman said:Quote Hello TT,     I went and looked up Isaiah 48, and read it from beginning to end, trying to put YHWH as the narrator.It appears that YHWH is the Narrator of the beginning, and Jesus doesn't appear until Verse 14.That is where YHWH declares his love for Jesus and that he called and brought him to the people.Then Jesus takes o…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote Jack you are truly mistaken, Let's start with this, Matthew 6:9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. 10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.Jodi,First, you did not…[Read more]

Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 23 2009,04:27)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2009,12:08)I wasn't around when those who decided what books were to be included in the Canon and which were not, but I can certainly tell by the principle that I have already stated, that precept must be upon precept and line upon line, whether or not something in the scriptures that we…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Here is what GOD said. I (ALONE) and BY MYSELF CREATED the HEAVENS and EARTH and ALL the things in it. YOU CAN FIND that In Isaiah's Writings, Gene,The Father applied Psalm 102 to the Son,Hebrews 1:8-10 (King James Version):But TO THE SON he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Sep. 23 2009,00:50)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 22 2009,12:49)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 21 2009,19:20)Gene said:Quote Thinker ……..You want to let words mean what the say, thats Good, Now go back and reread the statement where Jeuss said there were some standing there who would not (SEE) Death till the saw the son of Man…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,20:17)Hi TT, There is only one covenant for you and that is the new established in the blood of the saviour Jesus.He entered the holy place as priest and poured of his Spirit into his church at Pentecost.Amen! But the new covenant is about a new form of worship as well. Worship according to the letter has passed…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 22 2009,16:31)Jodi……….You have it right Sis, don't let these false Trinitarians and Preexistences change that which GOD has given you .peace and love to you and yours………………………………..geneGene,Jodi believes “SHALL BE called” but does not believe “WILL BE subject” in reference to Christ. Again, just more…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote Shall BE called! Notice the person has to be BORN first and has to be GIVEN the governmentJodi Lee,How convenient for you allow the future tense to speak on its own. Paul said that the Son WILL BE subject which implies that He is not subject now. How about some consistence Jodi?  thinker

Quote (katjo @ Sep. 22 2009,13:20)Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the goverment shall be upon His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful Counsellor, the mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace!!!Amen kat.Thanks,thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,19:49)Hi TT, So you decide what applies and what does not according to your dogmas?Hebrews says that when God said “new” covenant the old was passing away.Hebrews 8:13 (King James Version):“In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2009,16:04)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)thinker said to Gene:Quote Gene,You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied:Quote LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point?thinkerYour doctrine is…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote JackGene has been propagating his grotesque Idea of the Man of Sin for a long time, and refuses to see that the text could not have been refering to a false Jesus. So according to him it sounds like he is saying that Jesus is the man of sin!It is a total miscarriage of the text! It’s amazing how much they try to read i…[Read more]

Quote (CatholicApologist @ Sep. 22 2009,12:03)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,08:11)Where did I say that every eye did not see Him or that the dead did not rise? I believe it was all fulfilled. Now you say that you let words mean what they say. So how about this:Matthew 16:27-28 (King James Version):27″For the Son of man shall come in the glory…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,11:30)Hi TT, Jesus was transfigured on the mountain with only a few disciples present. Yet to be seen again coming on the clouds.Yes Nick,This is why the transfiguration is not His coming. Gene won't live up to his principle that we let words mean what they say. He does not let the word “man” mean what it says. It…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker ……..You want to let words mean what the say, thats Good, Now go back and reread the statement where Jeuss said there were some standing there who would not (SEE) Death till the saw the son of Man coming , now continue reading the next day Jesus took Peter and another Apostle with Him and wen't to the MOUNT of TRAN…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)Thinker……….If you are a true TRINITARIAN, you are saying the WORD in JOHN 1:1 is METAPHOR FOR JESUS.  All trinitarians believe that to my knowledge.  I have never denied the (WORD) who is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD CREATED ALL THINGS. But you trinitarians say the word was Jesus and He was the GOD that c…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 22 2009,11:02)Hi TT, The pope is not your lord.The church of Jesus is founded on the rock of truth.Catholicism sinks by the weight of her own substituted lord and false teachings.I still see Christ on His throne. You're insignificant Nick.thinker

thinker said to Gene:Quote Gene,You do not follow the Son of God. How can you when you deny that He is Lord? t8 replied:Quote LORD or Lord.It was God (LORD) that made Jesus lord.But it was Jesus who made Himself servant (Philippians 2). Get my point?thinker

CA said:Quote It would make Jesus a liar when He said that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church. The Church is indefectible by definition and design.This is why the enemy has not been able to displace Christ from His throne. He said, “I will build MY Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.”Christ said that we…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2009,10:24)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 22 2009,03:48)I am totally aware what trinitarians believe. Apparently you have not seen my posts in the past inwhich I have stated that I am not a traditional trinitarian. You evaded my point. The reading of “theos” in John 1:1c as qualitative does no harm to trinitarianism.Except that we…[Read more]