Quote (Gene @ Sep. 30 2009,00:34)Thinker………Can you see how your drift all over the place, making statements that make no sense at times. Stop and get you head together, Back out of that False TRINITY DOGMAS. would be a good start. IMOgeneGene,This is your best reply? WJ and Nick understood what I said. I read the narratives about Jesus as an…[Read more]

Worshippingjesus said to t8:Quote Again you claim that men are gods (theos) but Paul says no such thing…The title “gods” in reference to men simply meant “magistrates” or “rulers.” The idea of deities was never present.thinker

WorshippingJesus said to t8:Quote So your point to claim Jesus cannot be God because the Father made him Lord after the Ressurection is a mute point! Jesus had to fulfil everything that the Prophets spoke concerning him!Exactly! Jesus existed in the form of God but emptied Himself and became a servant so He could fulfill the law and the prophets.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,10:13)Hi WJ, You should not deny your master and Lord Jesus Christ. You have tripped over the stumbling stone trying to appoint your God as your Lord. Wake up.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:32)Hi TT, Jesus should be you Lord and his God should be yours. His Kingly throne does not make him another god.So when The Father said to the Son “Your throne O God” and installed Him as God on the throne you don't like it? Am I right that you don't like it?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:17)Hi TT, So God blessed His Son with authority. The greater blesses the lesserSo Jesus is neither Almighty God nor equal with Him. Out goes the catholic trinity follySo Christ is on the throne as a lesser God?   And where does it say that the Father “blessed” Christ? The Father payed Christ what was due…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,09:07)Hi WJ, His disciples called Jesus MASTER but you cannot? He told them his Father was their God but you fiddle with the order?God is the head of Christ and Christ the head of man…Jesus is not your LORD YET as he should be?Nick,The Father did the “fiddling” by installing His Son as God on the throne (Hebrews…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,08:42)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 28 2009,16:31)Gene said:Quote YOU can't even go to Jesus in order to be part of the Church unless the FATHER draw YOU.Gene.Nonsense Cat! Jesus said that when He was lifted up that HE HIMSELF would draw all men to Himself,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,08:35)Hi TT, The vessel of Christ is filled with the fullness of God.Christ is the place of safety for men to come to and find refreshment in God's Spirit.Christ is a spirit now like He was before. Spirits are not “vessels.”thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 29 2009,08:34)Hi TT, God was and is in Christ.The light of the Spirit of God within him draws the willing.In the days of His flesh. There is no “IN” now that Jesus is spirit again like He was before.thinker

Gene said:Quote YOU can't even go to Jesus in order to be part of the Church unless the FATHER draw YOU.Gene.Nonsense Cat! Jesus said that when He was lifted up that HE HIMSELF would draw all men to Himself,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”You keep denying Him the authority He received at His exaltation.Before…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote YOU can't even go to Jesus in order to be part of the Church unless the FATHER draw YOU.Gene.Nonsense Cat! Jesus said that when He was lifted up that HE HIMSELF would draw all men to Himself,“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”You keep denying Him the authority He received at His exaltation.Before…[Read more]

Quote (Samuel @ Sep. 22 2008,10:50)What ever I've already posted is fine.I'm looking to cancel my account from henceforth.I have decided that there is no need for me to keep posting on here. My posts are not helping no one, and if anything they are probably making things worse.It is better that I don't post on this forum board anymore.To keep my…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 29 2009,03:48)GeneQuote (Gene @ Sep. 28 2009,11:33)WJ……….Quite wrong , GOD HIMSELF is the ROCK that BUILDS the CHURCH.Gene, why do you always make statements like this without any scripture to support your statements?Your inference is wrong, but you do not even realize that you just confessed that Jesus is…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Hi JackTrue, Joseph is not a good example because Joseph was ruler over all of Egypt by proxy.However, Christ is the builder and maker of his house and sits “In the throne” with the Father and is worshipped.In the Hebrew faith this would be idolatry. And in fact I believe those who believe that Jesus is not God sitting…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,I want to say first that you have lost the argument with WJ on the issue of Christ's pre-existence. You lost it when you said that the Father's creating through Christ was like your setting up your expectant baby's room through your baby. This is sheer nonsense! It would help your image to concede the pre-existence part of this issue.Jodi…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 28 2009,09:20)Quote (thethinker @ Sep. 28 2009,00:14)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2009,21:09)Thinker.Playing with words cannot make something wrong, right.In the New Testament, it is written that there is ONE Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. And there is one God, the Father.I believe this and you do not.Argue with Paul about it. He wrote it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 27 2009,21:09)Thinker.Playing with words cannot make something wrong, right.In the New Testament, it is written that there is ONE Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. And there is one God, the Father.I believe this and you do not.Argue with Paul about it. He wrote it not me. I can't be blamed for what Paul wrote.You know that the words…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 27 2009,20:21)Hi TT, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. But your Jesus is different?Humanity has not benefited at all but only those reborn into Christ.So His being the same means that He could not be exalted? He always wanted to save people but the Father did not allow Him to save everyone He wanted…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote YHWH was translated LORD in the English OT.Kurios is translated lord in the New Testament.The two words are not the same.One is a name and the other a title.t8, This is more of the same double speak. The Messiah was called “The LORD our righteousness” (Jeremiah 23:6). Quote In His days Judah will be saved,      And Israel will dw…[Read more]