Quote (942767 @ July 09 2011,05:22)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 09 2011,03:03)TO ALL,On another thread some months ago WJ and I tried desperately to give Mikeboll and t8 an elementary lesson in nature and identity. It is unfortunate that some people who consider themselves students of the scripture cannot understand the elementary things. Please…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 09 2011,04:49)KJQuote 5:1 This is the genealogy of men in the day in which God made Adam; in the image of God he made him: 2 male and female he made them, and blessed them; and he called his name Adam, in the day in which he made them. 3 And Adam lived two hundred and thirty years, and begot a son after his own form, and…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 09 2011,04:07)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ July 08 2011,11:03)TO ALL,On another thread some months ago WJ and I tried desperately to give Mikeboll and t8 an elementary lesson in nature and identity. It is unfortunate that some people who consider themselves students of the scripture cannot understand the elementary things.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 09 2011,03:24)KJwhat do you mean when you say sharesEve was Adam qualitatively and also shares the name;but in God -Godt8 believes that Eve was adam in the sense she was humankind but that her name was not Adam. But God NAMED them both Adam.KJ

Kathi wrote:Quote It is absolutely significant what greater and lessor means.  I think they merely mean one is greater in His position in the relationship as Father, not greater in regards to nature.Yes and even the lesser postion Chist had was the result of His own volition (Phil. 2). He did not have to LOWER HIMSELF.KJ

Kathi wrote:Quote Almighty God our Savior = the Father who gave His Son + His Son who paid the price for our sins + their Spirit which seals the promise of redemption in us.One is summed up in the existence of the three.

Quote (t8 @ June 30 2011,09:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 30 2011,09:10)Hi David, Ed and Irene. You have brought up another one of the Anti-Jesus is God fallacies which I will address tomorrow, until then goodnight and cudos. WJBefore you do that, why not be honest and admit that you have 3 saviours. The Father, Son, and Spirit.Can you admit…[Read more]

Mike said to SF:Quote You post a scripture that clearly lists Jesus as someone OTHER THAN GOD,There is NO scripture that says that Jesus is “other” than God in the sense Mike suggests. Jesus is “monogenes”, that is, God the only Son (John 1:18, Sahidic Coptics).Or it means, “God at the Father's side.”“No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is…[Read more]

Istari wrote:Quote There is only ONE SAVIOUR – YHVH GODTitus 2:13 says that jesus Christ is the savior. So Christ must be God or there are two saviors. You lose either way.Istari:Quote There is only One who gives Life – God Almighty – YHVH.John said, “In Him (Christ) was life.” So Christ must be YHWH.Istari:Quote There is only One True God – God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2011,01:50)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,19:23)Quote (t8 @ June 22 2011,04:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2011,14:56)Here's another example of “Exception for Jesus” logic:Yes that exception rule is definitely bizarre.As soon as Jesus is mentioned all logic and teaching by pattern in scripture is thrown out the…[Read more]

Quote (david @ June 23 2011,10:18)Hi kjMy reasons for saying this are listed in the last post of page 44.  But since you  agree with me completely (that this is a very weak argument) I am actually quite interested in your reasoning, especially since you are a trinitarian I believe.  (this would seem to make your argument all the stronger, you no…[Read more]

David wrote:Quote Yet, you yourself say I go with the “him” translation in 12:10 myself and I do believe that trinitarians present a weak argument from Zechariah 12:10.  THERE.  YOU AGREED WITH ME.  That is my exact and precise argument!  Please say those words to Is 1:18.I said it in 2009 on this thread and I have just said it again.Quote Anyway,…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 23 2011,04:21)Hey JackVery Good and welcome back!  WJJust droppin in Keith. I am not back. Love,Jack

Quote (david @ June 22 2011,17:54)The ASV says in a footnote for “me” in Zech. 12:10: “According to some MSS , `him'.”For a list of some of the bibles that translate it “him” see last post on page 44 of this thread.Pierre, I don't think it should be “me.”. Do you?David,I go with the “him” translation in 12:10 myself and I do believe that…[Read more]

“In the third place, in the NT theos (like kurios) is virtually a proper name and consequently shares the imprecision with regard to the use of the article that seems to mark all proper names.“It is therefore NOT POSSIBLE to maintain that whenever theos is anarthrous it differs from ho theos in meaning or emphasis.” (Pp. 37-38; capital and…[Read more]

Quote In the third place, in the NT theos (like kurios) is virtually a proper name and consequently shares the imprecision with regard to the use of the article that seems to mark all proper names.”It is therefore NOT POSSIBLE to maintain that whenever theos is anarthrous it differs from ho theos in meaning or emphasis.” (Pp. 37-38; capital and…[Read more]

You're a moderator Mike. Set the example. You're always yelling and screaming in huge lettering and now you're calling people liars. Mature adults don't scream all the time Mike. Your yelling and sreaming accomplishes nothing but to make you look like a baby. Do you honestly think that guests who visit here will be favorably impressed by your…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2011,09:32)My 2 cents worth.Mike shouldn't call anyone a liar.But, Mike didn't call anyone a liar. He said EITHER you are one or you are not reading the evidence properly.So he is also open to the possibility that KJ is not reading the evidence properly meaning that KJ is not a liar.However, I think that it is better to say…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 22 2011,07:38)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 21 2011,14:23)Keith said;Quote Hey JackI have, but I doubt t8 will do anything even though he disagrees with the JWs and Mikes arthrous rendering of John 1:1C.T8 has all but called me a liar by inferring I am dishonest.It's Ok because I know who the “Accuser of the Brethren”…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Hi Keith:I am not going to argue with you about this.The Word of God will speak for itself.Keith replied:Quote But what word of God are you talking about? The Bible? According to you what is in the Bible is not “all” Gods word, right?You are not arguing with me, you are arguing with Jesus own words that are found in this Bible you…[Read more]