Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 17 2009,12:06)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 16 2009,16:56)TO ALL:Our friend David has dug a deep hole for himself in citing Paul's statement “bad associations spoil useful habits” (1 Corinthians 15:33, NWT) as a rule against WJ. In his statement Paul was speaking specifically in reference to our keeping away from those…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 17 2009,11:56)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 16 2009,16:02)ATTENTION  CONSTITUTIONALIST:Paul said that the sabbath was merely a “shadow” and Christ was the “substance.” Hebrews says that when the substance appears the shadow is done away. Those who reinstitute the sabbath are in violation of God's new covenant with man.…[Read more]

TO ALL:Our friend David has dug a deep hole for himself in citing Paul's statement “bad associations spoil useful habits” (1 Corinthians 15:33, NWT) as a rule against WJ. In his statement Paul was speaking specifically in reference to our keeping away from those who deny the resurrection. David is a JW and the JW's deny the resurrection.…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 17 2009,11:30)Quote THIS MEANS THAT WE SHOULD AVOID DAVID FOR HE IS A JW AND THE LAST I HEARD THE JW'S DENY THE RESURRECTION.THINKER, Again, you are insane.No one here believes that.  When you lie, people tend not to believe the rest of what you say, thinker.Secondly, your argument that I don't believe the resurrection,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 17 2009,11:29)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 17 2009,11:24)David said:Quote The Bible says: “God is not one to be mocked.  Bad association spoils useful habits.”TO ALL:Please note David's cut n' chop treatment of the scriptures above. He put two statements together which are found in separate books of the Bible and made a law of his…[Read more]

David said:Quote The Bible says: “God is not one to be mocked.  Bad association spoils useful habits.”TO ALL:Please note David's cut n' chop treatment of the scriptures above. He put two statements together which are found in separate books of the Bible and made a law of his own. The “God is not mocked” statement is in Galatians and has to do…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 17 2009,11:06)Quote Paul said…To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 1 Cor 9:22“Everything is permissible for me”–but not everything is beneficial. “Everything is permissible for me”–but I will not be mastered by anything”. 1 Cor 6:12Quote (david @ Oct. 17 2009,11:03)Quote How many see the resemblance there? Some men fight over the games, there is gambling and drunkenness and men worshipping around the TV shouting out praises to this ungodly sport.–wJMandy, When I see this picture in my mind do you know what I think of?Thanksgiving.No one is imposing Thanksgiving on your…[Read more]

ATTENTION  CONSTITUTIONALIST:Paul said that the sabbath was merely a “shadow” and Christ was the “substance.” Hebrews says that when the substance appears the shadow is done away. Those who reinstitute the sabbath are in violation of God's new covenant with man. Christ Himself is our sabbath rest. You are just as guilty in keeping the sabbath…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Hi,Interesting that some folks are not just tolerating these pagan feasts but actively promoting them.Do you think that Jesus will be doing the same?Jesus was made under the law so He would not have attended a pagan feast. Neither would Paul when he was under the law. But after Christ's atoning death He told Paul that he was free…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 16 2009,13:41)Quote (RokkaMan @ Oct. 16 2009,08:27)bodhitharta, I'd think it blasphemy to love your neighbor more than Jesus, for if you love anyone more than Jesus…then you love this material world more than God's Word.That should not be so for any christian…we are to lay our lives down for our friends, but for…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 16 2009,23:44)I believe that it is God's character that does not change, it is obvious that God has changed the way He deals with mankind.My opinion, WmExactly!The fact that there are two covenants is proof. The first has been abolished. Good point Wm.thinker

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 16 2009,12:53)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 16 2009,10:30)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 16 2009,10:24)Why would God declare some of His creatures unclean for food in the OT and all of a sudden declare them clean in the NT?  Why then bother to declare them unclean at all.This isn't the only thing God that has changed his mind on, so it doesn't…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Oct. 16 2009,12:34)WJ and thinker…….If the commandments of God are done away with, why does it Say, “the gentiles who have not the law (BUT) do the things contained in them , Show the LAW Written on their Heart by the Hand of GOD”. This seem to show the commandments are not done away with, but enforced in our thinking by GOD…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 16 2009,09:54)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 15 2009,14:38)Con said:Quote Then it might have something to do with the commandments, but I am sure you believe as TT there are no more commandments in existance. Right?Yeap! The Levitical codes are dead!thinkerGod does not change. (Mal 3:6, Heb 13:8, Jas 1:17)Here are some…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 16 2009,09:37)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,17:22)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 15 2009,13:47)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,16:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 15 2009,10:16)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,12:52) Foolish little boy, let the scriptures speak, if you really feel it is I…[Read more]

Con said:Quote Then it might have something to do with the commandments, but I am sure you believe as TT there are no more commandments in existance. Right?Yeap! The Levitical codes are dead!thinker

WJ asked Con:Quote “According to the scriptures are all meats cleansed by God or not”?Con replied:Quote NOPE!Paul said:Quote I KNOW and am CONVINCED BY THE LORD JESUS that nothing is unclean of itself; but to Him who considers it unclean it is unclean (Rom. 14:14)Paul was convinced by the Lord Jesus that no meats are unclean in themselves.…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 16 2009,09:05)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 15 2009,13:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 16 2009,07:35)Hi Not3, I am serious when I say the influence of movies of mores in society is huge. But we are not OF the world are we?Creating sins out of worldy stuff is not the issue but we should be a greater influence on our children…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 16 2009,08:38)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 15 2009,10:16)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 15 2009,12:52) Foolish little boy, let the scriptures speak, if you really feel it is I twisting and turning the word of God, let this forum decide:First of all, have you read the scripture that says “call no man a f…[Read more]