Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 02 2009,06:56)Hi TT, Naah. You seem to have lost most of your devoted followers as you wander off into speculation.If Jesus has returned the door has been closed to the wedding feast and you are lost, your faith is in vain.Nick,First, I did not know I had “devoted followers.” Second, I do not seek the approval of men…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Peter once again makes it known that God is “longsuffering” and to him a day is a 1000 years and a 1000 years a day.Keith,The futurists misapply Peter's statement. And they do not apply this statement consistently. Peter said that a thousand years is as one day. This means that I can say that there is no literal…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote All you have is shreds of evidence that point to his soon arrival!It was believed by the Apostles that Jesus was coming in their generation….Keith,Thank you for admitting that the apostles believed that Christ would come in their own generation. Not only did they believe it but they prophesied it. Do you side with…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2009,15:35)JackQuote (thethinker @ Nov. 01 2009,05:09)Come on Keith! By historical record everyone means that an event is verifiable. How do you verify that Stephen saw Jesus at the right hand of God? You take the biblical record by faith.LOL, then how do you verify “preterism” since you say you can prove it?If we…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote “John did not meet him in the air”?So John is not in heaven? John was caught up “in the spirit.” Paul said that after Christ returned those who are alive and remain would be caught up “in the air” (Greek, “breath). When John died he was caught up in the spirit to meet the Lord and he was given his eternal, immortal body…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 02 2009,15:31)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 01 2009,05:09)WorshippingJesus said:Quote ack, notice the words “From now on you will see”. If that literally means “from then on” then it would mean that Jesus was already sitting at the right hand and Caiaphas was seeing his coming in the clouds right then. So this proves…[Read more]

Georg said:Quote Are you suggesting we are living in God's kingdom now?Georg,Paul said that we have been transferred into the kingdom of God's dear Son,Colossians 1:13:Quote For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,Satan was bound when he was cursed in the garden and was loosed for the…[Read more]

For WJWorshippingJesus said:Quote This should concern you Jack since Preterism didn’t appear until the 1500s!Keith.Read OP here.Jack

WorshippingJesus said:Quote ack, notice the words “From now on you will see”. If that literally means “from then on” then it would mean that Jesus was already sitting at the right hand and Caiaphas was seeing his coming in the clouds right then. So this proves nothing for if it could mean 70ad, then it also could mean 2012. So what you are saying…[Read more]

Constitutionalist said:Quote That thinking is whacked. They will receive rest at his coming, whether dead or alive. After he comes there will be no more persecutions.Con,Your thinking is whacked. If they received their rest when they died then they did not receive it at His coming. They received it before His coming. And what is your proof for…[Read more]

Georg said:Quote Yes, my favorite books on prophecy are Daniel and Revelation.Your futurist views on Daniel and Revelation come from the doctrines off men. Revelation says that the visions of John were to “shortly come to pass.”“The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must shortly take place. And He s…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote My concern is that a comment like this may cause someone to abandon the faith, but let me assure God is faithful to his promises.Marty,What faith if God did not keep His promise to the saints at Thessolonica? I am protecting our faith. I insist that God kept His promise to the Thessalonians; that they would receive rest from…[Read more]

Quote (georg @ Nov. 01 2009,12:19)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 01 2009,11:11)Quote (georg @ Nov. 01 2009,01:44)If the Thessalonians saw the return of Christ, then what does the book of Revelation prophecy?GeorgGeorg,The Revelation prophecies the destruction of Jerusalem and the apostate Jewish state known in the book as the “whore” and its replacement…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 01 2009,11:18)Hi TT, If you are right then face up to the bad news. The door of Jesus closed in 70 ad and no more can be saved.On what do you base your theory. Jesus said that AFTER the tribulation He would gather His elect from the four winds. Salvation continues after ad70 because after ad70 is when the new covenant age…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 01 2009,11:17)Hi TT, Nobody has yet seen the promised signs in the heavens either but I suppose you have allegorised these?Nick,How can you say that nobody ever seen signs in the heavens when YOU WEREN'T THERE? What about Acts 2? Peter said that the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost was a fulfillment of Joel 2…[Read more]

Quote (georg @ Nov. 01 2009,01:44)If the Thessalonians saw the return of Christ, then what does the book of Revelation prophecy?GeorgGeorg,The Revelation prophecies the destruction of Jerusalem and the apostate Jewish state known in the book as the “whore” and its replacement by the true bride the Lamb's wife. The book was fulfilled in John's own…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 31 2009,21:50)The witching hour is almost here!I'll be glad when it's over so you will stop being the pawn of pagans by giving them so much publicity.At least for 364 days of the year you might think about God.thinker

TO KEITH:I will not have time today to do any posts in length. I am looking for you to comment specificaly on the “at the apocalypse of the Lord Jesus from heaven” part of Paul's statement. Your commentary on “rest with us” was not valid for several reasons including that you failed to comment on all of it.Jack

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 31 2009,17:25)Hi TT, You misunderstand. As usual.Nick,Tell me what I misunderstand. Paul did not say that the Thessalonians would receive rest from their persecutors in order of sequence upon their individual deaths. He said that they would receive rest from their persecutors in the SINGLE event of Christ's apcalypse from…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 31 2009,13:14)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 30 2009,02:44)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 30 2009,17:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2009,19:17)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 29 2009,16:48)Irene said:Quote Even you Keith, you are a Pastor and should set an example to the People of your Parish.  God has made that clear, that He HATES…[Read more]