Georg said:Quote Isaiah 65, starting in verse 17, is describing the millennium,Isaiah 65 beginning with verse 17 is describing the new earth   17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth;      And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. Georg:Quote The time given for all is about 100 years, whether you are resurrected as a c…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ Dec. 03 2009,01:53)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 02 2009,03:02)thethinker said:Quote Paladin,It has already been shown that you are a novice in the Greek in that you have repeatedly denied that the Greek has a past tense verb. So I am surprised that you would come back for another beating.You are entitled to your dreams just as I am…[Read more]

Paladin said:Quote In John 1:1, “theos” and “logos” are NOT convertible terms. Do you know what that means? It means they are not interchangeable. It means that what you can say for one, you cannot say for the other. But trinitariansism DEPENDS upon the terms being convertible….When the logos became flesh, GOD DID NOT. John 1:1 CANNOT be used to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 02 2009,22:23)Quote (thethinker @ Nov. 09 2009,23:41)Constitutionalist said:Quote Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Matthew 2:1 Gennaō: To be born, be born, be delivered, begat, to be begotten, of women giving birth to…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote So you see Kathi, our destination is to be with Jesus where he is, (with the Father of course) this is why he is coming for his Bride without spot or wrinkle, those who have made themselves ready for their Bridegroom and have oil in their lamps!He came and He is here both now and forever! His Bride has been presented to…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 02 2009,09:20)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2009,06:45)Hi TT, You should not make Jesus your idol. God was in HimI often see you as making Jesus your Idol as they make Jesus their GodAnd Allah is a god from your own imagination.thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 02 2009,09:19)Quote (thethinker @ Oct. 07 2009,12:36)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Jesus said we must die for him.Keith,Excellent point! The ultimate sacrifice we can make is to die for Christ. This would be idolatry if He is not God.thinkerWhere did Jesus say you must die for him?Can you put the scriptureJesus said:”Except…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 02 2009,10:04)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 01 2009,12:43)Hi WJ, So the more educated men become somehow the more deceived as well. Give me the uneducated fishermen from Israel any old day. God's power shows up best in weak vessels.NHDo you have something against education? Paul was educated by the best of his day and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2009,10:43)Hi Keith,Does Jesus teach us that He is the ultimate prize or the Father and the Son are the ultimate prize?KathiPaul said, “For me to live IS CHRIST.” Paul must be an idolater.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2009,06:43)Hi TT, So turn your educated mind to the evidence for God being a trinity. There is none in scripture.Think about itWhat Bible are you reading Nick? Father, Son and Holy Spirit are a trinity.thinker

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 14 2009,15:14)Psalm 40:6 (King James Version) 6Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.Bd,This statement in Psalm 40 is prophetic of the new covenant age when animal sacrifices would be abolished and Christ's sacrificial blood would…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote thinker……..Interesting, Jesus did not think he was a trinity , saying “FOR THOU ARE THE (ONLY) TRUE GOD. But then again you trinitarians have many different way of views and changing Jesus' words right. And even GOD himself said you shall have not other GOD besides Me and said there was NO GOD except HIM. But you trinitarians…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2009,05:11)Hi TT, Are you really clever and educated? Has this helped you know WHO God is yet?At least I do not say that Christ was born sinful. I won't go to the lake of fire as the sons of Bildad.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 02 2009,04:43)Hi WJ, So the more educated men become somehow the more deceived as well. Give me the uneducated fishermen from Israel any old day. God's power shows up best in weak vessels.Nick,You fool no one. You take “educated” men so long as they support your views.thinker

Constitutionalist said:Quote Also if TT was in fact a Master in Greek, he would not be Trinitarian. End of that discussion as well.Refute me then.thinker

WorshippingJesus said:Quote It seems that the Trinitarians around here are about the only ones that speak of the Greek and the original text, while the Arians just spat off their twisted interpretations of the translations!All the Arians around here have proved is that they know how to read a Greek lexicon. Greek exegesis is another matter…[Read more]

thethinker said:Quote When Jesus was “gennao” according to the seed of David He simply underwent a change in His mode of existence. Paladin replied:Quote WRONG!”Gennao” MEANS “to cause to be.” When one is “gennao” of the Spirit, that is not the “beginning of the person” it is the response to “Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be gennao…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 22 2009,08:27)Ok JackI am listening! You have the floor!Why don't you go ahead and answer the other questions?WJYou may start by explaining why there is procreation in the new earth and the presence of sinners and death (Is. 65).Jack

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 22 2009,08:27)Ok JackI am listening! You have the floor!Why don't you go ahead and answer the other questions?WJKeith,Be thinking about Revelation 20:14 which says that death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. According to the futurists nothing in Revelation 20 has happened yet. It is all still future. This…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Everyone take note, Jack has failed to address my following points…1. If Jacks interpretation is right and the saints remained here on earth then Jack is telling us that they are caught up to be with (syn) them in the clouds when they die!2. Is Jesus still in the clouds, are those that slept still in the clouds? Jack…[Read more]