Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,09:39)Hi TT, The angels have yet to be thrown out of heaven.This was that bad bunch of watchers that brought corruption to mankind IMOWhere do you get this stuff? Jude says that the angels who left their first habitation (heaven) were put in chains until the great trial (when they were loosed). How can you say…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2009,18:04)hi allPr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; Pr 8:25 before the mountains w…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,07:50)Hi TT, Do you think Jude refers to ALL angels who rebelled or only some at a particular time?Nck,Jude is clearly referring to those angels who left heaven. It would not matter if they all left together or if they left at different points in time. ALL those who rebelled and left heaven were put in chains in…[Read more]

thethinker said:Quote It does not say that the demons were bound forever. It says that they were bound in everlasting chains. So “everlasting” is to be understood qualitatively. It means that the demons were bound in durable chains .WorshippingJesus replied:Quote How convenient!So if Jude doesn't mean “everlasting chains” in a “real sense” but…[Read more]

Nick said:Quote Hi TT,God saves through Jesus.God is salvation.Nick,Yes God is salvation. Peter says that Christ is the Savior and to Him be the glory forever and ever. Major premise: God is salvationMinor premise: Jesus Christ is the SaviorConclusion: Christ is GodSo the question I put to Con applies to you as well. Are you going to answer?Quote…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2009,04:52)Hi TT, God saves through Jesus. God is salvation.This proves the unity of sameness of the Father and the Son.thinker

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 08 2009,05:26)the holy spirit is not god. your right. it is what he has used to do his will.Then why is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit unforgiveable? thinker

Bodhitharta said:Quote Also have you never heard of the 7 Spirits of God? Tell me which one of those spirits would not be Holy? Or do you believe that these 7 Spirits of God are all individual persons? That's more than a trinity.The translation “seven spirits of God” is not preferable. The noun case allows for them to be identified as the “seven…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 06 2009,16:29)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 05 2009,12:45)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,14:35)Can a person really only blaspheme 1/3 of God?any honest trinitarian would drop their belief immediately on this proofMy wife and I are one. If a man rapes my wife has he sinned against me? The answer is yes and no. He has…[Read more]

Bodhitharta said:Quote You said the entire trinity is God so you believe that God is not ONE.It is evident that you do not comprehend the concept of unity. Look it up.thinker

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 07 2009,05:24)Trinitarians make Yeshua HaMoshiach into a “Golden Calf”. Explain 2 Peter 3:18: (Young's Literal Translation)”…and increase ye in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ; to him the glory both now, and to the day of the age! Amen.”Are you prepared to charge Peter with making…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote In fact said He could do (NOTHING) on his own, FOR WHATSOEVER HE SEE THE FATHER DO HE DOES LIKEWISE> He is following the lead of the Father, for he does (NOTHING) on his OWN> AS He himself said. IMOJesus is not in the flesh now Gene. He is not under the law now Gene. He may do as he pleases now Gene.thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 06 2009,04:55)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 05 2009,12:15)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,11:48)hi georg i was responding to tk ,for the children to born in the 1000years.but you right .I do believe Thinker,has a very great immagination working at full capacity.If you present you self as inspired you should make shure…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 05 2009,14:35)Can a person really only blaspheme 1/3 of God?any honest trinitarian would drop their belief immediately on this proofMy wife and I are one. If a man rapes my wife has he sinned against me? The answer is yes and no. He has sinned against my wife personally but against me only by association. He could not be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 05 2009,11:48)hi georg i was responding to tk ,for the children to born in the 1000years.but you right .I do believe Thinker,has a very great immagination working at full capacity.If you present you self as inspired you should make shure that all the scriptures agree with your statement.t,Thethinker stands on scripture…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2009,04:20)Hi TT, Really? I think you are getting ahead of yourself as he still buffets the brothers.Jesus is not ruling as King yet except in the hearts of his brothers. He will return as the new David ruling from Jerusalem.And your proof that satan buffets 21st century brothers is found where? Last I read Paul was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 05 2009,05:00)Hi WJ, Paul never taught trinity so why do you claim an alliance with him?The battle is in defence of scripture, not man's ideas. We pull down such speculationsNick,Paul said, “to Christ be the glory forever and ever.” The apostle John said that he wrote that we might “believe in the name of the Son of God…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2009,09:24)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 04 2009,14:29)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2009,05:13)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 04 2009,12:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2009,03:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2009,11:16)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 04 2009,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 03 2009,16:32)The Thinker wrote:Quote King David was a prophet of God. In Psalm 40 he was Christ's mouthpiece. Christ spoke through David which necessarily infers that He was preexistence.Jesus quoted that passage and did not claim he was speaking through King David at that time but he did state the prophecy was fulfilled in…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2009,05:13)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 04 2009,12:47)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 05 2009,03:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2009,11:16)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 04 2009,11:11)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2009,10:31)JackAnother thread for the Preterists agenda? Why so many threads? WJWhat's wrong with the…[Read more]