Quote (banana @ Dec. 13 2009,18:24)thinkerNo human being can crush, kill, or destroy any spirit being, only God can destroy a spirit being.Nowhere does it say “first generation” Christian. The crushing under your feet, is just a figure of speech.The bible clearly states, he will be destroyed “after” he has let the last rebellion against God, that…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 13 2009,10:14)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 12 2009,15:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 13 2009,09:52)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,17:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,11:56)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,02:03)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,14:01)t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus…[Read more]

Constitutionalist said to WJ:Quote Mysteries are greco Roman teachings, funny how EVERY MYSTERY in scripture from Genesis to Revelation is explained, but the only thing not mentioned in scripture at all (trinity) is an apparent mystery. Go figure.Paul said that the promises of God are a “mystery” and that “eye has not seen nor has ear heard nor…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 13 2009,09:52)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,17:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,11:56)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,02:03)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,14:01)t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus is the agent of God's redemption.Jesus is the indespensible agent of God's…[Read more]

Georg said:Quote After Satan has been cast into the lake of fire, there will be no more sin, as sin produces death, and death and the grave have been cast into the lake of fire also, the logical conclusion should be, no sin.Georg,Paul said that satan would be crushed under the feet of the first generation christians.“And the God of peace will…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2009,09:42)Hi WJ, The Spirit is the Spirit of God.Jesus, the one GIVEN all authority, was anointed with the Holy Spirit and power. God was with himKeith,On another thread Nick said the Jesus is the Spirit and the Lord is the Spirit which is God's. Yet he finds fault with trinitarians.   thinker

WorshippingJesus said:Quote These scriptures show the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus for he glorifys Jesus, recieves from Jesus, and takes from Jesus, whatever he hears he speaks and shows it unto us and he does not speak of himself.Keith,By Arain standards the Holy Spirit would be an idolater. For the Spirit to glorify Jesus instead of the…[Read more]

Kerwin said:Quote You make the error of assuming that Bildad and Job contradicted each other.  They do not as God created the stars and Adam and Eve's sin bound them to decay.Kerwin, Job clearly contradicted Bildad's assertion that the stars are “unpure in God's sight”. Job replied saying that it was “God's Spirit that adorned the heavens.” So…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2009,13:11)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 12 2009,09:01)t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus is the agent of God's redemption.Jesus is the indespensible agent of God's redemption which means that He is truly and properly the Redeemer.Paul is the final word and he said that it was Christ who redeemed us (Galatians 4). The…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 12 2009,18:03)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,14:01)t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus is the agent of God's redemption.Jesus is the indespensible agent of God's redemption which means that He is truly and properly the Redeemer.Paul is the final word and he said that it was Christ who redeemed us…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2009,08:16)hi WJso any scripture who tell differently must be wrong or is a lie?t,The Greek literally reads, “without Him not one thing has come into being that has come into being.” It says, “not one thing.”thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,09:18)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,17:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,08:59)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,16:34)WorshippingJesus said to thethinker:Quote Actually Jack, I have already shown Gene the many times that Jesus claimed his words were his own, and in fact Jesus claims the New…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 12 2009,08:59)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,16:34)WorshippingJesus said to thethinker:Quote Actually Jack, I have already shown Gene the many times that Jesus claimed his words were his own, and in fact Jesus claims the New Commandments were his own.But Gene denies it and chooses to only see certain scriptures…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote God is the redeemer and Jesus is the agent of God's redemption.Jesus is the indespensible agent of God's redemption which means that He is truly and properly the Redeemer.Paul is the final word and he said that it was Christ who redeemed us (Galatians 4). The Revelation says that Christ redeemed us to God by His blood (5:9).…[Read more]

t8 said:Quote Jesus said, “take this cup from me, but not MY will but YOUR will”.God willed it. Jesus obeyed.Yet in His exalted state Jesus does His own will:”  All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 11 2009,06:21)HiTT, Yes everything looks that way to you through those thick trinity glasses.Well look at what you said dude! You said that the Lord is the Spirit and the Spirit is God's. Jesus is the Lord which you say is the Spirit which you say is God's. It sure resembles trinitarianism to me. Are you really a…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to thethinker:Quote Actually Jack, I have already shown Gene the many times that Jesus claimed his words were his own, and in fact Jesus claims the New Commandments were his own.But Gene denies it and chooses to only see certain scriptures that fit his theology. All you have to do is do a word search and you will see it.After…[Read more]

peace2all said:Quote mowhere does it say hebrew meaning for firstborn is supreme.Included in the Hebrew idea of the word “firstborn” is “supreme.”15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 12 2009,07:48)Hi TT, We do not reject scripture or dissect parts of it away. Of course neither should you add trinity.Show where Bildad's speech was accepted by God. This is the second time I have asked. If you don't answer then I will conclude that you can't answer.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 11 2009,03:58)WJ……….Jesus (PLAINLY) SAID the (WORDS) he spoke were (NOT) His why can't you except that. HE Spoke (GOD the FATHERS) (WORDS) to Us. Just Believe what Jesus said , He is (NOT) GOD, his His SON, same AS WE ARE. Peace and love to you and yours………………………geneGene,Show where WJ has denied that the…[Read more]