Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2009,04:05)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 20 2009,22:11)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2009,16:41)Marty wrote:Quote And so, what the Trinitarians are aguing that since the Granville Sharp rule is true that God and Jesus are the same person based on Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1,I see your point but it has to concede that there is a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2009,05:44)Hi TT, None of this stuff proves any trinity. Is it really worth your while trying to turn scripture against itself to sow confusion? You may reap the whirlwindNick,So you don't deny that the Lamb receives equal power and glory with the Father? If it does not imply equality then what does it imply?thinker

Gene said: Quote Thinker ……..When and where have i ever said we are to be gods, that is not what i have ever said, My post does not even suggested that at all. It is your assumption because you Believe Jesus is A GOD,Gene,You have me confused wit t8 and Kathi. They believe that Jesus is a God. I believe that He is God period. You and t8 say…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,04:05)To All……….”there is ONE GOD and ONE Mediator between MAN and GOD the (MAN) Jesus Christ”. Jesus set us and example to WORSHIP the FATHER, the same GOD He WORSHIPED.A half truth is a lie Gene. Revelation 5:13 says that praise, honor, glory and power belongs to the Father AND TO THE LAMB.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,03:53)Thinker ………Again another lie where have i (VEHEMENTLY) Denied Jesus was not our savior, He was GOD”S SACRIFICE for the SINS of the WORLD. I have never said different. YOU must try harder not to LIE about what someone has said. Please post where I (VEHEMENTLY) Denied Jesus was our Savior if you can? Your false…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Dec. 21 2009,03:49)Someone answer me this what seperated the Jews from everyone else?I answered you immediately above.thinker

Quote (uoflfan @ Dec. 21 2009,03:27)Thinker,I worship the same God my Saviour did and does. Because I follow the example lead by Jesus.Who do you worship, Do you worship the Only True God as Jesus says.I worship the Father AND the Lamb (Jesus).“13 And every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Dec. 21 2009,03:36)Im not Gene so I do not know what your talking aboutMy mistake. For a minute there I thought Gene was starting to come around.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,03:19)thinker…….what i meant by that was (YOUR) presentation of a resent finding that you grab as scripture when in fact they are just some fragments found . You eagerness to (TRY) to prove Jesus is A GOD, only shows how you have no real proof so you are franticly looking for something to support you false…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,03:19)thinker…….what i meant by that was (YOUR) presentation of a resent finding that you grab as scripture when in fact they are just some fragments found . You eagerness to (TRY) to prove Jesus is A GOD, only shows how you have no real proof so you are franticly looking for something to support you false…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,03:28)Ed J………..welcome to my world, you can present the truth as clear as a crystal and they (trinitarians) will not get it. When God sends a deluding Spirit (intellect) they will believe  and teach (THE LIE) and that LIE is that JESUS is A GOD> 2Ths 2. geneYou talk of others having “deluded spirits” when it is…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Dec. 21 2009,03:27)Thinker,I worship the same God my Saviour did and does. Because I follow the example lead by Jesus.Who do you worship, Do you worship the Only True God as Jesus says.YOU'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS GENE. YOU SAID THAT JESUS IS YOUR SAVIOR WHICH YOU HAVE VEHEMENTLY DENIED HERE.thinker

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 21 2009,03:10)thinker………So you are really (NOT) a Brother to Jesus as scripture say we are, and we are not Joint heirs with Him as scripture says we are. And He is not the firstborn OF MANY BROTHERS as scripture says we are. It is amazing how you trinitarians twist scripture to present Jesus as A GOD, separate from our…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 19 2009,16:41)Marty wrote:Quote And so, what the Trinitarians are aguing that since the Granville Sharp rule is true that God and Jesus are the same person based on Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1,I see your point but it has to concede that there is a possibility of Granville Sharp's rule being true which it quite obviously is not.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 18 2009,14:56)hi ttin Jude 5 if it is Jesus  or God does it make any difference ??in any case it does not make Christ God the  father or God Christ,just because one always does the will of the other.Trinitarians do not believe that Jesus is God the Father. Those who believe that Jesus was His own Father are not T…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 20 2009,20:41)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 20 2009,16:16)Gene,Its amazing the arrogance by those that believe that somehow we will ever be equal to him, Jesus.Thats where it all started when satan said “Ye shall be gods”! Lies!WJHi WJ,Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened,…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote I have just quoted to you what Jesus said and YOU still do not believeGene,You do not quote everything Jesus said. You quote only His statements which you think support your doctrine. When we quote His statements about His exaltation you just ignore them. Example: Jesus said that His words were not His own. This is true. But He…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Gene:Quote Its amazing the arrogance by those that believe that somehow we will ever be equal to him, Jesus.Thats where it all started when satan said “Ye shall be gods”! Lies!Hey Keith,Your last statement is a VERY GOOD POINT. Gene and his small band of disciples think that they will be as gods which was the first lie…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote KerwinForget the dead image in a mirror.Jesus is not a dead image of the Father.BOOM!thinker

Gene said:Quote Nick……..I quote scripture all the time, but you as well as others fail to acknowledge it.Gene,But there are some earlier scriptures which say that Jesus saved the people out of Egypt and you answered saying that we should not believe the scriptures but the Spirit. So no one will listen to you now when you quote the scriptures.…[Read more]