Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,13:04)Well, at least they would be safer there Pierre.  They wouldn't have to put up with you and Irene and t8 and me constantly blasting that comically flawed, man-made doctrine to shreds.  Mike tears his own theology to shreds by speaking out of two sides of his mouth. Jesus is begotten and distinguished from t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 02 2011,18:48)PrincessQuote It has been noted that this forum would have no light in it without trinity/binity believers, only one way to find out. how is that ?PierreI said it and it is the truth. Kathi, Keith and myself give this forum light. This forum would be all darkness without us.You say thanks by spitting on God's…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 05 2011,12:52)Jack! How wrong can you get.  How about what t8 wrote this Scripture in particularLuk 1:32   He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:  Jesus is the Son of the most Highest, and true God…. He will give Jesus the throne of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,02:10)t8,The title 'Most High' can be applied to Jesus, or the Father, or the unity of the Father and the Son.  It depends on context.  According to 1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,01:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,20:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,22:18)Do I need to dumb it down for ya Mike, is that what you are saying? Yes please.Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2011,22:18)The Son of God is a co-equal member of the unity with the God that He is the Son of.Kathi, who exactly makes up our…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,04:30)MikeIs Jesus still the Son of Man? If so please explain how if he is an angel!WJKeith,Mike is so inconsistent it's not even funny. He has said that Jesus as God's “begotten” is distinguished from the angels and mankind.We have never known Mike to maintain consistency in his theology. This is why he…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,04:30)MikeIs Jesus still the Son of Man? If so please explain how if he is an angel!WJKeith,You are correct. Jesus is still the Son of Man. But He is glorified Man and not Man as we now know Man to be. He no longer has the body of flesh He possessed after His resurrection. He was changed when He ascended to…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,09:19)Not having a cow Jack, but as you can see it caused Irene to post a huge page in response which will only cludder the thread.I don't see why you can't see that. It seems that you are having a cow bro. Cheers, have a beer and settle down.WJNow you're talkin! Why don't you join me?

Paladin wrote:Quote So Ishmael was Abraham's firstborn son, but was removed from the seed line of the covenant; and of Isaac's two sons' Esau and Jacob, his second son Jacob became God's firstborn, not Isaac's. “And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” The story of the “firstborn” has always been…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,06:31)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 04 2011,14:09)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,04:56)Quote (t8 @ July 31 2011,17:53)I personally think that if a person quotes another and the interpretation is not true, then a person can apply to have the post edited or removed, thereby negating any defense.But I…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2011,04:56)Quote (t8 @ July 31 2011,17:53)I personally think that if a person quotes another and the interpretation is not true, then a person can apply to have the post edited or removed, thereby negating any defense.But I think we should be allowed to quote posts from members, otherwise how are we to say that…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 05 2011,03:16)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 03 2011,16:12)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 03 2011,09:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 02 2011,14:27)I'm not going to let you slink away from this, Marty.  My DOG was born, and is also a creation of God.So why couldn't Jesus have been born, and also be a creation of his God?  You know, he's not only c…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 05 2011,02:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,01:59)Hi Jack,Well, I do believe that there were two that shared a mutual perfect love.  However, I believe that we can love ourselves and so there only needs to be one to do that.Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,01:59)Hi Jack,Well, I do believe that there were two that shared a mutual perfect love.  However, I believe that we can love ourselves and so there only needs to be one to do that.Gal 5:14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.”Blessings,KathiBut one…[Read more]

Hey Kathi,Check this out from another forum.I wrote:Quote If the Word was created , then there was a time that He was not face to face with God. So there was a time in God's existence that He was alone. Was God ever alone? I think not.thinkerA poster replied:Quote Love cannot exist without “other”.  Thus unless God is a “community” (as we…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2011,01:08)Hi t8,you said:Quote And one of the precious promises is we will be like him. Our bodies will be transformed into a body like his. First is the carnal, then the spiritual. He calls us brothers. As sons, we are given the privileges that go with being sons.Being adopted doesn't mean that God doesn't love us any…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2011,00:16)Great insight Jack!  Another compound unity spoken of as a 'he' and a 'him.'  You are right, that compound unity is everywhere and it seems that all compound unities have a name like the 'one new man.'I'm not sure that the compound unity is the image of God but maybe the compound unity is the 'oneness' of G…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 02 2011,10:31)Mike,I'm just answering your questions for my benefit to know that I can.  I will leave the convincing to the Lord.  I am just supposed to proclaim the truth freely as it is given me…what kind of ground it falls on is out of my control.  This site is open to anybody whether their soil is rich and fertile, re…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 02 2011,08:54)Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 02 2011,01:12)Go back to the op of this thread.  God NAMED the male and the female “Adam” (Gen. 5:1-2). It was the man who named the woman “Eve.” But God named her “Adam.”Again you prove that you lack understanding in this subject.God called them Man as in Mankind. That word is…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 02 2011,01:19)Quote (t8 @ July 31 2011,20:57)If you understood the difference between identity and nature, you would not teach what you teach.t8Tell you what, when you can explain or give an example of how you can “identify” anything without nature then you may have a point! WJKeith,I have posted Webster's definition…[Read more]