Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2009,13:46)Hi TT, So you definitely have two gods but sometimes three?When will you submit to the lamb of God who is under his God?Nick,Does it not say that “every creature” worships the Father AND the Lamb? I don't dissent from the rest of creation Nick.thinker

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 29 2009,05:21)i havent seen a scripture that says jesus or the word or holy spirit ever being created. but were there when he was, so then it leads one to believe that tehy are part of himself and extension. all these illistartions of son and father are t oshow humans the relationship or way they are to be viewed. thus…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2009,05:39)hi choseonetry this one;Pr 8:1 Does not wisdom call out? Does not understanding raise her voice? Pr 8:2 On the heights along the way, where the paths meet, she takes her stand; Pr 8:3 beside the gates leading into the city, at the entrances, she cries aloud: Pr 8:4 “To you, O men, I call out; I raise my v…[Read more]

TO DAVID:Where are you?thinker

Quote (banana @ Dec. 29 2009,14:36)thinkerI guess you don't believe in gravity either do ye; it was created by the God of the Old Testament.GeorgGeorg,That's it? That's all you got? Jesus said, “Believe in God and believe ALSO in Me” (John 14:1). Is this not a departure from Deuteronmomy 6:4?The apostle John said, “I write these things that you…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Dec. 29 2009,14:28)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 29 2009,14:11)Quote (banana @ Dec. 28 2009,14:39)peace2allIf you believe the Bible, then let me ask you this; what do these scriptures mean to you?Deu 4:35   Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.  Isa 46:9   Remember th…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2009,14:12)Hi TT, No the God of the Lord Jesus is our God.Nick,This thread is supposed to be for trinitarians. Do you have a reading comprehension peroblem too? If the God of the Lord Jesus is our God to the exclusion of Jesus then why are we commanded to abandon faith in God? Hebrews 6 says that they were to leave the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 28 2009,16:42)Quote (Jodi Lee @ Dec. 27 2009,01:45)Without the Father, Jesus is NOTHING!!Is there a scripture that even implys this nonsence?You cannot seperate the Father from Jesus. They are ONE!Without Jesus you cannot have the Father!Burn that strawman down!WJWithout the Son God could not have saved…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Dec. 28 2009,14:39)peace2allIf you believe the Bible, then let me ask you this; what do these scriptures mean to you?Deu 4:35   Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.  Isa 46:9   Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, an…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 26 2009,04:48)i have now read and see that there are different beleifs within the trinity doctrine itself. on one hand some beleive that all three are the same one god one person, where as some think that they are seperate things but all are from god or his essence and are connected in that sense a extension of his power…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Jesus did not exist as a sentient person in the beginning but God made all things with him in mind, and so this verse of scripture can either mean that God created all things with him in mind or it can mean in the sense that he is building the Holy Temple of God, and from the beginning God has forseen this.  I tend to think that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 29 2009,13:37)Hi TT, Come out of her. Join the body of Christ.Quote (Gene @ Dec. 25 2009,03:55)Thinker………I worship the FATHER (ONLY) as the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, as Jesus said, YOU on the other hand worship Three MYSTERIOUS FORMS of GOD. The GOD I worship is SPIRIT and Has NEVER Been FLESH. He lives vicariously…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 25 2009,03:55)Thinker………I worship the FATHER (ONLY) as the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, as Jesus said, YOU on the other hand worship Three MYSTERIOUS FORMS of GOD. The GOD I worship is SPIRIT and Has NEVER Been FLESH. He lives vicariously through His creation His spirit is in all things that has Life in them. He operates through…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote thinker………why is it when you go to any of there Churches you hardly ever hear the Name of the FATHER ever Mentioned then, It is all  about Jesus worship and little about Worshiping the FATHER who Jesus WORSHIPED,  why is that thinker? Even this false Christmas teaching is only about Jesus and hardly nothing about the F…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Your view is the same as the Gnostic's , you believe Jesus was a GOD sent from GOD and He was not (TRULY) a ordinary HUMAN being But a reincarnated GOD Being into a flesh form.Gene,Your knowledge of Gnosticism is as bad as your knowledge of the scriptures. The Gnostics denied that God could become flesh. You need some schoolin…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2009,10:18)Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 29 2009,03:13)holy spirit is called THE WORD.Hi Peace to all,Your eyes are truly beginning to open!That is exactly who John 1:1 is referring to as “The Word”(HolySpirit)!God bless youEd Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgED J,The Word is not the Holy Spirit. The Word became flesh the Holy…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote Hi WJ and thethinker:Jesus is not the creator.  He is, however, building the Holy Temple of God.Marty, The Father Himself disagrees with you. He attributes the creation TO THE SON saying,You, LORD, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. Heb. 1:10This is the Father's own…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 29 2009,05:38)thanks jack. i don't think that those are enemies of christ but just are holding a view that they see to fit. i think thats ok too as long as only the father is worshiped as GOD and the son is put in what position GOD had chose for his relationship.. i don't think that its a issue that leads one astray or…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Dec. 25 2009,03:35)thinker……….quite dodging the issues, I am not denying Jesus is a “god” i and denying He is a GOD. Like you triitarians teach, and where 2Ths 2 says this man of sin is being displayed a GOD, sitting in the temple of GOD, that is Jesus you teach as a GOD, a False image of Him created BY false trinitarians…[Read more]

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 29 2009,03:18)i have now felt inside that having this new aspect or insight has made my heart rejoice more. true love is coming forth from me and is leading my being towards love and compassion.  i feel that i am actually living for god as one should.this feels good, i don't feel so alone or doomed or burdened on lifes…[Read more]