Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 02 2010,09:23)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2010,17:16)WJJn 13:16 I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.Jn 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever—Jn 14:21 Whoever has my commands and o…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote But if you are assuming that because it says “through” which is the English word for the Greek “Dia” which can also mean “by”, is some kind of proof that Jesus did not do the creating or that he is not God then scripturally your logic is flawed.WJ,Exactly! The Greek “dia” (through) has reference to direct agency.thinker

Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 02 2010,13:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 02 2010,09:23)tIs that all you have?I think you still refuse to see that Jesus is not in the flesh anymore.WJwj, by your teachings, he kicked out his god and took over his throne. you teach roman style. don't you have children to lure in with candy and music, what did…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2010,07:37)hi TTyou are willful blind ,call me names but John does not say i am a liar ,66 books and you find one verse in it what you twisted to support your sick abomination of idolatry.to make the Father equal to the Son.t,Of the 66 books you should be able to produce one statement which says that Jesus was created.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,07:22)Hi TT, You rely on speculations but can judge others?Nick,It says, “Without Him not one thing came into being that has come into being.”Please show what part of this statement is “speculation.”thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,04:55)Hi WJ and TT, Your trumpeting of petty victories seems futile when your foundations are shown to be vain logic and inference and you still do not know WHO God is.That hasn't happened yet Nicky.thinker

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 02 2010,17:47)Quote (Newbie @ Jan. 02 2010,16:25)Also, Nick (now I hope you'll respond to the points I've raised)http://www.letusreason.org/Trin6.htm The verses you mention show that Jesus has a UNIQUE relationship with the Father.  Otherwise, why didn't he just say “our Father, our God.”  No, Jesus is the Son.  Also, being the So…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Thinker………The son revealing the FATHER to us WAS THE FATHERS WILL, JESUS PLAINLY SAID HE COULD DO NOTHING ON HIS OWN INITIATIVE AND NOW YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS DIFFERENT AND DOES WHAT EVER HE WILL AND WANTS TO DO.Gene,Jesus did not say that the Son reveals the Father to us according to the Father's will. He CLEARLY said that all…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote No man can come to the Father except through Jesus, but you are making it sound that like he(Jesus) picks and chooses to whom he will reveal the Father, but let me remind you:Marty,Jesus CLEARLY said that He reveals the Father to men according as He wills:” All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 02 2010,09:04)Thinker………Another good dodge of the issues, Did Jesus say the WORDS HE SPOKE were (NOT) HIS WORDS?, A SIMPLE YES or NO Answer will suffice, not a bunch of TRINITARIAN GARBAGE. I have quoted WORD FOR WORD GOD'S WORDS , HERE I WILL DO IT AGAIN FOR YOU AND THEN TELL ME DOES THAT MAKE ME A GOD?…>” YOU SHALL…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 02 2010,04:09)tQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2009,18:10)let maked clear God is the Father of all creation i mean everything ever was created.no one will can change that.Christ,the Word was priviledge by being the first of creation ,i mean the first of Gods creation so at that point they were two after God created…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 02 2010,04:39)Thinker………So when i quote GOD'S words does that make me a GOD too.  Pure hog wash. Jesus said the words He spoke were (NOT) (HIS) Words , what part of that you don't understand.  Is there no end to you TRINITARIANS twisting of the words of GOD the FATHER and Jesus our brother also.Gene,You can quote and e…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,04:09)Hi TT, So logic leads you to conclude there are two gods?Nick,Did the son reveal the Father to you or not?thinker

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 02 2010,04:39)Thinker………So when i quote GOD'S words does that make me a GOD too.  Pure hog wash. Jesus said the words He spoke were (NOT) (HIS) Words , what part of that you don't understand.  Is there no end to you TRINITARIANS twisting of the words of GOD the FATHER and Jesus our brother also.Gene,You're not the e…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to terraricca:Quote Do you serve a resurrected Jesus or a pre-resurrected Jesus that you see in the bible that had come down from heaven to submit to the Fathers will?Keith,They give lip service only to Christ's exaltation. They say that Jesus has been exalted but He is still a servant. There was a time when I worked for a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2010,08:08)hi WJanyone who comes from the Father this means whoever prophets,priest,apostels,Jesus the Son more than others tells the truth of God about God and for the glory of God ,one God one Son thats all.no trinity.The Son revals the Father to whomsoever He wills.  “All things have been delivered to Me by My…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 01 2010,12:18)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 01 2010,05:42)Quote (Gene @ Dec. 31 2009,11:20)THINKER………INTERESTING SO NOW YOU TELL US JESUS WAS A PHYSICAL (ENTITY) interesting the Gnostic's thought that also, they believed Jesus was a GOD who came and inhabited a Physical body, thy never believed he was actually a flesh and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 01 2010,12:03)Hi TT, So Jesus is the head of the “body of Christ” and not the God that Christ serves.We are the branches of Christ's vine but neither Jesus nor us are the Gardener?Nick,In the old testament the Husband was the God of Israel. In the new testament Christ is the Husband. Do the math Nick.thinker

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 01 2010,07:47)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 01 2010,04:00)ED J is confusing the two. Moreover, ED J says that I am is the accuser of the brethren an because I say he propagandizes. Yet he was the first to accuse brethren of “institutional propaganda.”Hypocrisy!thinkerHi Thinker,How does Labeling propaganda material of systems of…[Read more]

ED J said:Quote Hi Thinker,What you say does not make any sense?The body of believers is Christ's body and YHVH is our Head.What did I lie about? I believe you just did not understand what I said?ED J,Paul clearly said that his people are the body and that Christ is the head. You have not bridged the gap between trinitarians and arians. You are an…[Read more]