Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,08:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,16:54)Hi WJ, Thanks for the clarification. But why would you study the foolish words of men when the Word of God is alive and active?How do you know what that word says!Can you read Hebrew and Greek?If not then you have to either learn how or trust what you read as…[Read more]

Nick said to WJ:Quote Use of THEREFORE shows your reliance on weak logic rather than letting scripture confirm matters.Paul used “therefore” over 100 times.  thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,05:18)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,13:08)Hi WJ, That Spirit of God ever proceeds from God uniting him with His son and those in him. God is all in all.NHJesus sits in the throne of God ruling as God and the Spirit proceeds from both him and the Father!And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:17)Hi TT, You left out ” today I have begotten you”“Today” was not at the Jordan was it Nick? It was at His resurrection and exaltation (Acts 2, 13: Heb. 1).and decreed to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:19)Hi TT, So he has been GIVEN all authority by his greater God yet you would make him another God?He was given back what He gave up of His own volition in the first place (Philippians 2).Now answer the main point of this thread please. Jesus said that the Father would send the Spirit “in MY name” (or MY…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:09)Hi TT, You seem to have conveniently cut your quote from Ps 2 from it's context.An abbreviation is not necessarily out of context. What is erroneous with what I said?thinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 15 2010,05:01)Hi WJ, Proof? You are too easily smitten with your logic.The Spirit was GIVEN to Jesus and Jesus gives the Spirit of God to his body.Yes Nick! Jesus Himself gives the Spirit. Your admission does not help your case. The Spirit was sent by the Father IN JESUS' NAME (or authority).thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,04:51)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 14 2010,12:37)Marty,You did NOT address my point at all. You said that Christ is still acting in His Father''s name. But my point was that the Father sent the Spirit in Christ's name.So be careful not to accuse me of not hearing you when you are being evasive or you have a…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 14 2010,11:02)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 12 2010,21:12)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 12 2010,11:34)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 12 2010,11:13)TO ALL:I don't need to take much space to show that when a person acts in another person's name it means that the person is acting on the authority of the other person. The works that Jesus did in the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 15 2010,02:58)WJ…………Jesus became a Son the same way we do When He recieved the HOLY SPIRIT at the JORDAN, at that point he became a son of GOD. The Voice of GOD said this day i have Begotten you.  Even though Trinitarians have try to change that to mean He was always GOD. There is no difference  between Jesus and O…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote There is no difference  between Jesus and Ourselves , if we have the (same) Spirit of GOD in USANATHEMA! Jesus is NOT  the same as us. Though He had the same Spirit He had Him WITHOUT MEASURE!John 3:34: For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. and, Hebrews 1:9: You h…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2010,03:56)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 14 2010,10:58)WJ…………Jesus became a Son the same way we do When He recieved the HOLY SPIRIT at the JORDAN, at that point he became a son of GOD. The Voice of GOD said this day i have Begotten you.  Even though Trinitarians have try to change that to mean He was always GOD.…[Read more]

WJ said to Irene:Quote The Holy Spirit took part in the conception just like he does in every conception the difference being a man was not part of Jesus natural birth.BOOM! THINKER

On another thread WorshippingJesus said to Marty:Quote MartyYou asked me to show you how the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus and I showed you plainly that the Holy Spirit is “Another” that the Father and Jesus sends.You think that because Jesus prayed to the Father that somehow that takes away from Jesus “Sending” the Holy Spirit.Did he send…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said to Marty:Quote MartyYou asked me to show you how the Holy Spirit is subservient to Jesus and I showed you plainly that the Holy Spirit is “Another” that the Father and Jesus sends.You think that because Jesus prayed to the Father that somehow that takes away from Jesus “Sending” the Holy Spirit.Did he send the Father?Then I…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:36)Hi WJ, So if you have two gods what happened to your trinity idea?Yakkety yak, gobbledy gookthinker

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:36)Hi WJ, So if you have two gods what happened to your trinity idea?Yakkety yak, gobbledy gookthinker

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:16)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 14 2010,11:13)Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:06)The scriptures also say that God will judge through Christ.Jesus said that the Father judges no man but has committed ALL judgment to the Son. So “through Christ” means by direct agency of Christ.The Father judges no man!thinkerCorrect…[Read more]

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:11)It proves that even though Jesus is Ruling, He is doing what Father says or has said.That's like your father turning over the family business to you and then telling you how to run it.thinker

Quote (uoflfan @ Jan. 14 2010,11:11)It proves that even though Jesus is Ruling, He is doing what Father says or has said.That's like your father turning over the family business to you and then telling you how to run it.thinker