WorshippingJesus said to ED J:Quote Do simple words mean anything to you guys or do you have to confuse everything to explain 1 simple text?The smoke screens that are created by you guys are amazing.Keith,We know the answer to this. They confuse everything. Look at what some of them did to the simple statement, “…and denying or ONLY Master and…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 17 2010,04:21)Hi WJ, A strange trinity god cannot save. Come to Jesus and His God.Nick,A “strange trinity” would be from the imagination of men. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are directly from the word of God.Nick, ED J and JustAskin would be a “strange trinity” with the second person ED J being the most garbled.thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:16)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,12:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:02)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,11:56)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Adam and Eve is proof of free will.Adam and Eve were free before the fall but not afterwards. All men after the fall are slaves of sin. Slaves are not…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,04:12)hijust think it is men and is laws who takes away freedom to dominate this is why Christ say to his apostles not so with you ……seat belts are from men ,income tax from men ,evil is men doing not God.You missed the point. I do not freely put on my seat belt because the law “interferes.” I put it on because…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:02)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,11:56)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Adam and Eve is proof of free will.Adam and Eve were free before the fall but not afterwards. All men after the fall are slaves of sin. Slaves are not free.thinkerJackI agree, yet Jesus said “Whosoever will”, and the Spirit and the Bride…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,03:20)TTthe father his the God with no beginning,Christ has a beginning,but you know that this is no news to you ,you like a argument for the purpose of what ?I have seen your responses and i have to admit that you have a good knowledge of the scriptures,but use it for defending what and help who,??t,You are here…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Adam and Eve is proof of free will.Adam and Eve were free before the fall but not afterwards. All men after the fall are slaves of sin. Slaves are not free.thinker

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,03:46)geneyou do not read what i have said all along” free” means no interference in your choice” will “the power to make your own decisions even the wrong ones.so free ..will means going to God by choice not forced and receive the grace of live ,is this against God s will???????????t,There is no such thing as…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 19 2010,03:14)Terraricca……….The question here is (NOT) that we have WILLS<  But are they So-called, "FREE WILLS" that is the question , but now you have tried to made it a question of do we have WILLS, no one is denying that we have Wills, what we are talking about is it a "FREE WILL" that is a Will totally (FREE) of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 18 2010,13:53)terraricca………….Hunger and Poverty, thats what forced him back, Free WILL had nothing to do with it.Good point Gene!thinker

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2010,15:46)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 16 2010,11:09)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2010,10:01)Hi thethinker:He is also not like us now in that he has a spiritual body.Quote Phl 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,Phl 3:21 who will transform our lowly body…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 16 2010,17:44)Amen to that post brother Marty. May God help us to have united opinion on our Saviour.Peace and loveAdamWho do you think is Savior? Hebrews 5:9 says that Christ is the “source” of eternal salvation. The New Testament repeatedly says that Christ is the Savior and that we are His people.thinker

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,23:43)hi TTi surely believe in the son of God ,it is you who do not believe in the son because you make him God with your trinityt,The Father Himself said that the Son is God:But to the Son He says:      “ Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;      A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,15:33)TT i was talking about your story of the trinity.you voluntary slide away wen it fit your views ,i am not the one who tell twist verses of the scriptures it seems you like to place you self in the higher class of people ,;even Satan will disguise himself as a angel of light this means truth”t,So you deny that…[Read more]

Ed J said:Quote If you are one of the 'skilled', when I ask you to explain something, then why do you sometimes refuse to explain?ED J,First, I did not say that I was one of the “skilled.” I was referring to WJ. I was also exhorting terraricca to put himself under skilled preaching and teaching by going to a gospel preaching church. Your reading…[Read more]

Kathi said to WJ:Quote When the Bible speaks of a “son of man” you automatically understand  that the term refers to a man.  Why wouldn't it be the same for “son of God?” WJ replied:Quote Because you are proposing that a “Class of Being” i.e. “GOD”, brings birth to a different “Class of being” i.e. little God!God begets God is an extra Biblica…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,14:45)TTso you finally accept the trinity as pagan and non biblical,good for you to see the truth.Huh what?  thinker

Kathi said:Quote …but I certainly do think it is possible for the Most High God to have a true offspring which comes from Himself so I have no problem with the term monogenes theos used in John 1:18 to be translated as “only begotten God” as the NASB translates it.  But you already know that. The sun begets light which radiates from within…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Jan. 16 2010,13:37)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 16 2010,11:57)On another thread Marty said:Quote Hi WJ:Jesus said God was His Father, and he was conceived of the Holy Ghost.The Holy Ghost is God's Spirit as the scriptures state, and not a third person as you are teaching.  It isn't that difficult to understand.Jesus was going to…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2010,12:34)WJI know a little of them, but i know the scriptures ,and i know i don't need more than Gods spirit and Christ spirit and apostles guidance But i certainly do not need man made mystery gods and storiesThe Son of God is a “man made mystery story” to you? He is your Savior and the “SOURCE of eternal salvation…[Read more]