Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 19 2010,15:39)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,22:14)Kathi said:Quote The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son of God from the beginning.TO ALL:Kathi ignores that the scripture EXPRESSLY declares that Christ was begotten as…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote “AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD”Marty,Moses no longer applies today. God is no longer the head of Christ as man is no longer the head of woman. At His Father's right hand Christ is EQUAL with His Father. Paul said that the Son “WILL BE ” subject to the Father (chap 15). If Christ “will be” (future) subject to the Father then He…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 20 2010,05:08)hi TT and WJthis is the reason why Christ got killed by the doctors of the law and the pharisees.Christ was killed by men who denied He was the Son of God and equal with God.John 5:18: “Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His…[Read more]

TO WJ:Keith,Have you noticed the the past several posts from JA & t are not replies to biblical arguments? They just accuse and call us a “necessary evil.”thinker

Quote (banana @ Jan. 19 2010,21:21)W.J. and thinker!  Since I have more Scriptures from my Husbands Book I will enter these now1Tim. 2:51Tim. 6:16Ex.8:10Deut. 4:35Is. 40:13,25Is.45:18Is.46:9Mark 12:321 Corinth. 8:4,5,6Ephes. 4:6I hope that these Scriptures will show you why I believe that there is no trinity.  Also it is a man made doctrine and n…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote Yes, but that is not the whole council of God. In fact the context of Paul’s statement is in light of the contrast between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant! God rejected Esau for a reason and chose Isaac’s line for the promised Messiah who would be the means of salvation for all men.Keith,The context is spe…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,14:11)TTdo you know the scripture i refered to and i was responding to the fact that Christ is called god that is why i post my respond ,or comment .i am not smart because i should have thought that someone could use it out of context,so i deely apologies for my mistake.t,I do not accept your explanation because I…[Read more]

Kathi said:Quote The angel said that he would be called the Son of God in the future sense, I'm fine with that, but that does not mean that He wasn't the Son of God from the beginning.TO ALL:Kathi ignores that the scripture EXPRESSLY declares that Christ was begotten as Son at His exaltation. It was in  reference to Christ's exaltation that God…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote He said that we should honor him just as we honor the Father who sent him, and he is my Lord who is worthy of all praise, glory, and honor, and when I obey him, I am obeying God's Word submitted to Him through His Son and His Christ.  He is the head of the church, but he is not God, and so, I do not worship him as God.Marty,Paul…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,10:53)hi JAjust as moses became god to his brother in exodusThe angels were never commanded to worship Moses. They were commanded to worship the Son:Hebrews 1:5: For to which of the angels did He ever say:     “ You are My Son,     Today I have begotten You”?  And again:     “ I will be to Him a Father,    …[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote Jesus Christ has received his reward and it is His light that will shine over his people. Jesus, indeed, will become their 'Mighty God' (a reverential title – not a factual one. One cannot 'become' a God)Still, Only God Amighty is Worshipped.The Father commanded all the angels to worship the Son:Hebrews 1:5: For to which of…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 19 2010,11:36)Terra and to TT,I was on my way home from work which is why i was away for a while tonight (Uk midnight now!)My Spirit was going out for TT. I think God want him to come to know Him. TT , you kniw I have not spoken in secret about this.It will be a fearful thing when the reslisation kicks in – do not be afraid…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 19 2010,10:33)TT, hou are on a  role …In my Bible it is verse 17. Ok not a problem.17: “For he received from God the Father honor and glory when a voice came to him from the Excellent Glory: This is my beloved Son…”I'm not sure how else to read this other than what I said.When I opened my Bible it fell open at 1 Peter…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,07:19)hi TTyou know the answer to that one ,i guess you want to know if i know right ?this is the prophesy that foretold the coming of the gentiles into God grace but under certain condition,right?It is also true that Jews do not seek after God:9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have…[Read more]

The others that you quote- 2 Peter 1: please can you read through the other verses – What do they say – in EVERY instance it says “Lord” Jesus Christ – and further vs JustAskin said:Quote 16:says: “… he receive honor and glory from God the father” A God is Complete in himself – has no inout source = he can give out within himself and receive…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2010,06:52)hi TTwhy do we have to seek God ,if it is up to God we may just sit and wait?????By the prophet Isaiah God said that it was those who did NOT seek Him that found Him:“I was sought by those who did not ask for Me;      I was found by those who did not seek Me.      I said, ‘Here I am, here I am,’      To a n…[Read more]

WorshippingJesus said:Quote So if I understand you correctly God is a respector of persons and Jesus does not draw all men unto himself?God loved Jacob but hated Esau (Rom. 9)WJ:Quote So the “whosoever will” is for only those that God wills?He will have mercy on whom HE WILL have mercy. And whom HE WILL He hardens (Romans 9).WJ:Quote There is an…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote The great saint – and Peter and Paul in particular, did not call Jesus “God” – why might that have been?JA,You are deflecting from my point! I proved that the Father Himself called His Son by the name “God.” You didn't even address this point. Here it is again:8 But to the Son He says:      “ Your throne, O God, is fore…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:45)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,12:25)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:16)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,12:12)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2010,04:02)Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 18 2010,11:56)WorshippingJesus said:Quote Adam and Eve is proof of free will.Adam and Eve were free before the…[Read more]

Marty said:Quote The spirit of Christ is the Word of God or the doctrine of Christ.The Romans 8:9 text says no such thing.thinker