Quote (Gene @ Jan. 23 2010,04:36)thinker…….I doubt if anyone here is more confused as you, on this Subject. Your squirrelly images only are refelcting how your own mind works, because you can't prove Jodi or any other NON TRINITARIANS intelligently wrong, so you revert to stupid images that are produced by the real spirit within you.…[Read more]

Gene said:Quote Jesus is the propitiation for our sins because GOD THE FATHER HAS (EXCEPTED) HIS SACRIFICE as FULL PAYMENT FOR EVER, FOR the SINS of THE WORLD. SO the Sacrifice is a Propitiating ONE. He is what GOD the FATHER used as the PAYMENT> for sin. Taht does not make Jesus the GOD who accepted that payment as you deluded Trinitarians preach…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,23:14)TT,Jesus will be all in all when he reconciles man to himself and God.At present there are many he is NOT in and who are not in him and he will bring the winnowing shovel or cut of the branch of their vine (or whichever of the many analogies)Jesus is All in all – But not Above All – that is He is not above God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 23 2010,04:36)thinker…….I doubt if anyone here is more confused as you, on this Subject. Your squirrelly images only are refelcting how your own mind works, because you can't prove Jodi or any other NON TRINITARIANS intelligently wrong, so you revert to stupid images that are produced by the real spirit within you.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,14:44)TTyou are a very intelligent man,well educated ,you are certainly more eloquent than i,so you understand English better than i do ,i have to read most in another language,””And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit OF HIS SON into your hearts””what you think is required to be a son of God ?and…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Jan. 23 2010,04:25)WJ………Brother you are so wrong, Jodi has explained it perfectly right. You and thnker are both committing IDOLATRY by trying to make Jesus into Very GOD.  What Jesus does and did is and will always be to the GLORY of THE FATHER,  Who is the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD.WJ if you harden your heart to these truths it w…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 21 2010,00:09)Hi thethinker.I will get around to replying within the next week hopefully.Cool!thinker

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2010,03:42)Hi JodiQuote (Jodi Lee @ Jan. 22 2010,10:57)Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior.WJ, is there ANYONE else who can save Israel and do so through sending a man?I just believe the scripture you quote just as it is written!Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord, And…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,11:50)TTif every time someone twist a scripture and then turn around and ask me to respond and correct it,sorry this is not the way it should be done .do know the story about the 10 virgin that Christ told, i sure you know it ,how come only 5 were accepted?? and why??What scripture “twisting” are you talking about?…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,11:55)TT,In your post you had simply wuoted scripture verses. Nothing to dispute.My last remark was that you made and argument from nothing. I agree that the son glorifies the father – where in any posts, have I said otherwise?There was nothing in your post that pointed to anything negative or incorrect on my part -…[Read more]

Jodi Lee said:Quote Jesus is our savior ONLY because he followed in the Will and the plan of the Father.Yet God said, “Besides me there is no Savior” (Isaiah 43:11). Either Christ is God or He is not our “only” Savior as Jodi Lee said.Paul said,13 looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Jan. 22 2010,11:21)Well said, TT, I knew you had it in you.There is no disputing what you have said in this last post (did you want me to?)Just what was your point, again?Jesus is in God, God is in Jesus – noone disputing that.God has given his son his Holy Spirit (kinda like Abdicated – like when an ancient King gave his Seal…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,07:45)TTyour interpretation of Rom 8;9,is not correct ,you just look to find a way to argue,i know you know very well what that scripture says and do not say.you are a well educated person this is a game to you ,i can not believe other wise,? but it could be ,…t,You always say that this I say is wrong or that I…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote TT, God not ALL in ALL: Didn't God give his HOLY Spirit to Jesus and is taking a 'back seat' until Jesus delivers the Kingdom.JA,Read what Paul said for yourself:Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2010,06:19)hi TTRo 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.may be this version of the bible is better to make you understand it, NIV.The NIV says the same thing. The…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 21 2010,07:58)No Thinker, I do not say that because I feel like you have raked me over the coals…hardly…dream on.  But that statement that you made about the coals is a perfect example of you not taking words for their real meaning but twisting them to fit your arrogant perceptions.  Thus, based on my experience with y…[Read more]

JustAskin said:Quote Either way, how can God be raised to a HIGHER LEVEL or POSITION?By taking the form of a servant (Philippians 2).thinker

terraricca said:Quote I am horrified at the base level of your learning.The Holy Spirit is of the Father – how can Jesus …demand … of the Father?Paul said that the Holy spirit was both the Father's and christ's.Romans 8:9 (New King James Version)9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if…[Read more]

Irene said:Quote thinker!  I was just reading 1 Timothy 6:16 again and it came to me, if this is talking about Jesus, it says that He alone has immortality.  So the Father has not?  If Jesus is the only one, then the Father must not.Irene,First, I am glad that you are looking at this scripture anew. But you haven't solved the problem that it sa…[Read more]

Irene said:Quote Whether Christ is Spirit, how He was before does not make Him equal with His Father.Jesus is EQUAL with His Father because He sits at His right hand.Irene:Quote Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords until all enemies have been made subject to Him, then He will give the Kingdom back to His Father.Do you realize how much your…[Read more]