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    ftk wrote:Quote To call Satan(the deceiver) any kind of god is blasphemy, IMO.!  Although I guess he is the master of lies, deceptions and darkness. Satan is the leader of lies. Devils are lies against the truth.  Just some opinions to provoke further truth!  TK Amen! Look for a pm from me inviting you to come to another forum.KJ

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2012,01:59)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,21:09)pierre said:Quote no doubt it is Satan ,the god of this age ,The correct reading is this:“God has blinded the minds of those who of this age do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.” Then…[Read more]

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    pierre said:Quote no doubt it is Satan ,the god of this age ,The correct reading is this:“God has blinded the minds of those who of this age do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.” Then it says that Christ is the “image of the God.” Is Christ the image of satan?Paul…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 15 2012,12:45)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,12:55)I agree about the excessive celebration part.  These clowns today don't even have to score to celebrate.  They dance around like they're God's gift to the game just for doing what they're paid millions to do – like tackling the dude with the ball.But I'm glad America is advanced enough to know this is a s…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,10:11)What a close, exciting game that was!  I've always liked Ben, and half felt sorry for him yesterday (although I was rooting on the Broncos).  But he needs to recover from that ankle injury before something really bad happens anyway.  So maybe it was a blessing in disguise for him.Yeah! The Broncos did it wi…[Read more]

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    Okay so the Houston Texans will be the first course in the progressive meal.The Steelers are out of it.KJ

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2012,11:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,11:09)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2012,10:29)Hi BD,Does your wife also customize hijab's?B'shemYHVHDo you have to hate on every threadHi BD,That was a serious question, sorry if you took it as something else. :(B'shemYHVHED,You can't even keep a sports thread on topic without stirring the…

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2012,10:22)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 05 2012,10:08)On January 15 either the Houston Texans, Denver Broncos or the Pittsburgh Steelers will be the supper of the Ravens.KJMy wife customizes boots:https://www.facebook.com/photo.p….theaterCool looking boots. How much does she charge for one pair? We had a lady at…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2012,10:30)Since the Cardinals are out of it, I will be rooting for the Ravens.  They are my son's favorite team.Okay Mike! We have something in common after all.KJ

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2011,03:44)Who of you believe that God died on the cross?then your God is mortal,he can be killed by men.Why would we worship a mortal God like the pagans do,for their God is mortal.Those that believe that The God they worship died,dont realise,and dont know their God.Do you know that everything is framed by the word of…[Read more]

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    KangarooJack replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 4 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2011,05:25)Mike as i and we have said many many time that is a Title not an actual thing , Jesus is  called that because God the Father who is the LOGOS was and does speak “THROUGH” HIM. But that does not make him the one speaking “THROUGH HIM Simple as that. O an by the way, Frank and Ed J, Marty, Chosenone,…[Read more]

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    ED J said:Quote Are you suggesting that Jesus (according to Wake-up) came out of God's mouth?Don't act dumb Ed! God does not have a literal mouth and the word “Logos” in reference to Jesus is a figure of speech. To the Greeks the Logos meant “MIND” or “reason.” It should say, “In the beginning was the MIND and the MIND was with God and the MIND…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Dec. 25 2011,09:41)#1  The Heavenly Father through His Word (the expression of God-not a separate person).So Jesus (a person) is not the expression of God?Jack

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    Mikeboll wrote:Quote God Almighty has NEVER needed to have anything “GIVEN” to Him.  Nor has He ever needed another to place His enemies at His feet.Jesus would have NEVER needed anything “GIVEN” Him until He first gave it up OF HIS OWN VOLITION (Philippians 2).When will it sink in?Jack

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 22 2011,03:12)Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; John 13:3All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. John 15:16WJKeith,Amen brother!Jack

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2011,11:48)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Nov. 14 2011,11:38)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)When God again brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”This is proof of WHEN God's angels will do obeisance to Jesus.  Also, WHOSE angels will do obeisance to him?  HIS OWN angels?  Or “GOD&#03…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 15 2011,06:35)KJ.”I am” in the New Testament is used by anyone wanting to convey the English equivalent of I am.A bit like this example:Q: Are you t8?A: I amSo we see in scripture:Q: Are you Jesus of Nazareth?A: I am.No fancy complicated secretly embedded message here KJ.Jesus said that he was Jesus of Nazareth.The I am doctrine…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2011,01:55)KathiQuote The Isaiah passage seems to be the Father speaking about the Son of man which was not involved in creation…the Son of God was involved in creation.  The Son of God was not yet the Messiah when He was with the Father in the beginning and all things were created by/through Him-the Son.Kathi Christ…[Read more]

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