I'm not grumbling or intentionally changing the subject here T8, I was merely responding back to you and explaining to you your mis-understandings of my posts.hmm-fruitless

I too agree that justification and salvation is a free gift( Rom.5:1-10) through Yahushua Messiah sacrifice upon repentance( Acts 2:21-38) of sin / ie transgression of torah or law-ie-lawlessness( 1 John 3:4), and those that have done so do not wilfully ( Heb.10:26) sin / or commit lawlessness( 1 John 3:4) to YHWH'S laws and commands, which is…[Read more]

Those who don't answer to the responce posts can't answer, because they can't refute them.Isn't that true? Then why have none done so?Quote ( Posted: Feb. 05 2006,14:46) Remember I promised you a smiley face if you behaved yourselfNow T8 when have I not behaved myself on here except to post only scriptures? I don't use the CAPITIOL LETTERS in my…[Read more]

The topic was salvation is it a free gift was it not?The first posters post only mentions salvation does it not?Quote whether the salvation is a free gift The first topic poster only posted once in the top first post in the entirety, and never posted again, WHY or what then..What does the trinity here have to do with this topic?Then i'm accused…[Read more]

The immortal soul doctrine is the first lie told to Eve the first human woman, when satan said, “” you shall not surely die “”.Why you have an immortal soul as satan said, but YHWH said “” the soul that sins, it shall die( Ezek.18:4 , 20). So souls can die, they are not immortal.

Quote Even if I actually pointed the accusation at you, there were still 2 options, 1) nutter2) pedling your waresHowever I didn't say you were either in that post. I was trying to point out that I didn't want you to go in either of those directionsOk lets forget that. Now please answer all those scriptural questions that I asked above with…[Read more]

Now please answer all those questions with scripture asked above ?

No human has an immortal soul , or imortal or immortality yet, as that occurs at the coming of Messiah at the last trumpet( 1 Cor.15:52-54).The soul that sins, it shall die ( See Ezekiel 18:4; Ezekiel 18:20).

The word immortal is only used one time in the New Testament in 1 Tim.1:17 and it refers to the King Eternal, Who is that?And the word immortality appears only 5 times in the New Testament, and 1 Tim. 6:16 who is it that only has immortality here?And Romans 2:7 tells us to seek immortality, and the last 2 places the word immortality is used, it…[Read more]

No man has an immortal soul and you can't find those two words of “”immortal soul“” connected together in any scripture.And in no place of scriptures where the word immortal or immortality is found, does it ever refer to man, except at the resurrection or change of mortal humans whem Messiah comes( See 1 Cor.15:51 thru.54 )

Quote Eliyah, the point of this Forum is to discuss, speculate, teach, and learn. It is not about using it as a platform for yourself. It is to share and learn. It is not a platform for religious nutters, or those pedling their wares.Oh you did'nt huh? Sure sounds like you did call me that, I don't see any other person arround here called EliyahQu…[Read more]

Those in Messiah at His coming must put on immortality of those that are alive will be changed from mortal to immortality, and the dead in Messiah shall be raised( resurrection) to immortality( See 1 Cor.15:51-54), , this is when, and only then shall man have an immortal spiritual body( 1 Cor.15:44-54)Now when will those that are dead and alive in…[Read more]

Read ( 1 Cor.15:50-54) what does it say about IMMORTALITY of those that are alive, and those that will be raised( resurrected) to IMMORTALITY ?

Quote We shall not all fall asleep , but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised( resurrection) up incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on…[Read more]

Quote He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity; I'm not winking with an eye, that is your stupid smilies popping up after a ” ? ” mark.But those who call me or someone else a nutter as you called me, is most certainly is plotting perversity.

New World Translation of 1 Cor.15:44-55Quote “”””42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised up in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised up in power. 44 It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body,…[Read more]

Quote Eliyah, the point of this Forum is to discuss, speculate, teach, and learn. It is not about using it as a platform for yourself. It is to share and learn. It is not a platform for religious nutters, or those pedling their wares.Quote It is not about using it as a platform for yourself.Since when have i used this forum for a platform for…[Read more]

I will give you $ 1000 dollars if you can find these two words connected together of immortal soul written in the scriptures?You can't find a needle in a haystack, when that needle is not there Sir.And even David will have to back me up on that statement, because that is the same that his organization teaches too.Will you speak up David ? Or…[Read more]

Quote Eliyah, the point of this Forum is to discuss, speculate, teach, and learn. It is not about using it as a platform for yourself. It is to share and learn. It is not a platform for religious nutters, or those pedling their wares. Since when do i speak about myself ??Are you learning yet? And what other wares except the scriptures does this…[Read more]

Now when will those dead and alive in Messiah put on immortality ?At the last trumpet( See Matt.24:31; 1 Thess.4:16; 1 Cor.15:52; Rev.11:15) when Messiah comes.