Nick,Quote Hi eliyah,Try 1Cor 9.20-21Rom 2.12f Nick, that did not answer the question above that I asked.Yea, let's take a close look at ( 1 Cor.9:21).””20.And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;21.To them that are without…[Read more]

First you say,””Quote Paul was under the OT Law.Then you say,Quote We never were.Show me that statement in the scriptures?The plain fact of scriptures is that Paul taught the Gentile CONVERTS that the only way to fulfill the righteous requirements of the spiritual law of Yah and of Messiah( Rom.7:14: Rom.8:2 first part), is if Messiah is in…[Read more]

You said,Quote Paul was under the OT Law. We never were.Show me that statement in the scriptures?But then, you never answer a question, you play dodge ball when you can't prove your statements in the scriptures, and then you resort to accusing me everytime I show scriptures that dis-prove your unscriptural statements.

Nick,I never condemned anyone, is that all you can do is accuse me , every time I dis-prove your out of context posts with scriptures?What do you think in your mind that WHO'S WORDS WE ARE TO FOLLOW, our own stupid reasonings as we see fit, and make up the rules as we see fit?You resort to accusing me when I dis-prove your posts.

Nick,Again, you dodged and avoided the questions as you always do.Can you not answer a simple yes or no of the questions?

Paul plainly said…So then with the MIND I ( Paul ) MYSELF SERVE THE LAW OF El( Yah); but with the flesh the law of sin.( Romans 7:25).Paul also said, “” I ( Paul ) DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF El ( Yah) after the inward man. But I ( Paul ) SEE ANOTHER LAW in my members, warring against THE LAW( Yah's law) OF MY MIND, and bringing me ( Paul ) into…[Read more]

You are the one who is not getting the point and out of context , because the law is spiritual Rom.7:14, and this is the law of the spirit of life in Messiah( Rom.8:2 first part), and the law of sin and death is that ANOTHER LAW( Rom.7:21,23 first part), that wars against the “” LAW OF YAH “” that Paul served with his mind( Rom.7:25 first…[Read more]

No,You missed the point, in that “” so that the requirements of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit””Still, he jumps the gun, and just when I thought he was beginning to understand?Now how might the requirements of the law be fulfilled in us, if it is not by Messiah and His Spirit…[Read more]

Nick,If those who cannot speak with other tongues or languages, why would they fear to lose control , if they wanted to speak with other languages?You seem to imply that those who do not speak in other language would fear to lose control , if they speak in other languages.Do you loose control while speaking in another language, and do you…[Read more]

You said,Quote So you have to become part of the vine first. Right? We are not naturally branches of that vine. We, who obey the Son's instructions, are wild olive branches grafted into the true olive. Then when you join the grapevine you can be blessed with the Spirit, which is as the sap of the vine, and naturally produce the fruit of the vine.…[Read more]

The Messiah gave a very important anology concerning that He was the TRUE VINE, and that His Father Yah was the true Husbandman of the vinyard ( John 15:1).2. Every branch( or true follower and believer) in me( Messiah) that beareth not fruit( See Gal.5:22 of obedience of fruit of Yah Commands ) He ( The Father Yah) taketh away: and every branch…[Read more]

Nick,How can people who know and use other tongues or languages be afraid of losing control?Those in the scriptures as explained by Paul in ( 1 Cor. Chapter 12 through Chapter 14) were not out of control through the Spirit.Such thinking as losing control is entirely foreign to the scriptures, as the many Pentecostal Groups seem to be unaware of too.

I explained your translating or interpreting in the topic under tongues , where this should have been.

Nick,Tongues or languages “” IS NOT THE EVIDENCE””, as many Pentecostal's use that term, to prove a person has the Spirit of Yah, however, the fruits of the spirit( Gal.5:22) is a sign of Yah's Spirit.Quote Hi eliyah,Would it not be easier to just address the questions asked? Constant complaining is wasted words. Clearly you are familiar with the…[Read more]

Nick,I was answering you back concerning what you said earlier to me.And also,Quote Hi OS,Why did you think I was talking to eliyah about tongues?You seem to hopskotch arround from one subject to another, but you ignore my scriptural posts in answer to you back, like you did just then, in my answer back to you.I get perceive that you know…[Read more]

Nick, again you twist my words and mis-understand my posts.Paul makes it plain in Rom.Chapter 8, that those who mind the things of the flesh, do not have the spirit, and are hostile or enimity against Yah and His Law, and do not want to be subject to Yah's laws, and neither indeed can they be.( Rom.8:5-8).Again, will you not take the time…[Read more]

Also,You said, Quote This gift is for private use and not public performance as Paul has said.There is no scripture that makes such a statement.

Nick,You said,Quote Good points. Perhaps I should have been more clear. The gift of tongues is not for excessive public performance within a church meeting situation as often happens in the charismatic churches.Paul makes that very plain in 1Cor 14 13-19. He does not say tongues should not be used but with a sense of discipline and order as in…[Read more]

Nick,As I said before, You ignore the scriptures in my posts , for IF you had noticed under my topic called THE VINE and do we obey as He did, that I listed ( Gal.5:22) as the fruit of the spirit, but as always, you ignore my scriptures given in my posts.Go re-read under my Topic called Do You obey the Father Yah as the True VINE did ?, and…[Read more]

Quote Perhaps it needs added the command that they be born again, and the Power of the Spirit of God at work amongst the preachers.Let's see now, how long has traditional christianity been preaching its own message about a false person called je'sus, and how many religious denominations are there of this world in almost every country on the…[Read more]