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[Dianalevich]

God does work in mysterious ways – a few years ago I posted an invite to our chat room and I just wanted to let you all know that invite is still valid. One of your members Phoenix has been visiting recently and has turned out to be such a blessing – Praise God for He alone is Good!

[Dianalevich]

Hello Everyone! It seems to me that a simple statement in which Jesus expresses His teachings on swearing oaths has again become so complicated. It's like cooking – too many chefs in the kitchen can ruin a good meal. I believe that too many commentaries that attempt to “read” deeper then what Jesus specifically said is something we should all learn to avoid. Let your yes be yes and your no be no -seems simple enough to me. Perhaps I am missing some message that the Holy Spirit is giving to others – the beautiful thing is, only God knows our hearts, our motivations and it is He that will be my Judge. GBU, Peace, Diana

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Quote (Guest @ July 13 2005,01:17)

Quote (Christofer @ July 12 2005,16:44) I fully believe YHWH was Jesus and the Father was unknown to us – after all – Jesus did say no man had ever seen or heard the Father – if this is so – who else could be YHWH other than the one the Father gave all authority over the heaven and earth – – – only Jesus could be YHWH in this context. Greetings in Christ Diana and Christofer! I am enjoying your contributions. Could you elaborate on you comments here please. I am interested to know the scriptures that lead you to this conclusion. I too wonder if many of the OT references to YHWH apply to Jesus, as many of the NT writers seem to make that link. Alot of the major and minor prophetic books, in particular, seem to be refer directly to Jesus IMO. GBU

Hello Guest! Here is an article that I have been reading,

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/yhwh.htm

check it out and let me know your thoughts. GBU! Peace, Diana

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Hi Nick – I totally agree that Jesus does not say that in order to be "saved" we must follow the 10 commandments. What I am saying is that the 10 commandments are summed up in the greatest of all commandments which is love. For our salvation we must believe in the Son of God, which of course is Yeshua the Messiah or better known as Jesus Christ. John 3:1-21 Jesus tells Nicodemus how to be born again in order to enter the kingdom of heaven. Specifially He says, in John 3:16 that who ever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. It is true that we must repent and according to Mark 16:16 Jesus says whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, however I believe that particular verse was not found in the earlier manuscripts but added later. Regardless, the only way to the kingdom is through Jesus Christ. GBU! Diana

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Hi Nick – I agree that the 10 Commandments were given to the Jews and not the Gentiles. However,when looking at the commandments all I see is positive, Godly direction for our life in relationship to Him, our Father and to other human beings. I agree that we are not of this world and after reading my post I realized that it seemed as if that is what I said. If you think about it, Yehshua summed up all of the ten commandments in the two greatest commandments and that of course is to love the Father and to love others as ourselves. My point in mentioning the 10 commadments as part of my walk with Him is that they are more then just a set of rules to live by. They reveal the foundation of our faith relationship with God and structure our moral relationship with others, which of course Jesus exsquisitely states in the NT. GBU! Peace, Diana

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2005,03:49)

Hi Diana, 1. If you look at the context of Mk 12.28-31 Jesus was asked by a scribe about the Commandments. The same with the Rich young man in another place. We need to be careful to see exactly what was asked of he that is Truth as he cannot lie and he gives the answer the question deserves. 2. The ten Commandments are part of the Law and the OT Covenant made with the Jews and not Gentiles like us. We have never been under the Law. So we cannot be saved by obedience to a Law that we are not under can we? 3. Certainly they do not pass away and remain as reminders of the ways of God but since the time of John the Baptist they have not been in force. Also the Spirit leads us to obey their righteous ways too. 4. We are under grace and the commandments of Jesus Christ. His teachings reveal the kingdom of God which was preached and still is preached. 5.One of those new commandments is about the "gate": " You must be born again of water and the Spirit to enter the Kingdom" That is the gospel of the kingdom. 6. We need to make sure we have obeyed Christ first before we can walk with him. Then there is "abide in me"," abide in my teachings","love one another as I have loved you"etc Do you agree?

Yes Nick – 1. I agree it is important to understand the context of the scripture we are quoting in order to understand the Truth.

2. No we are not saved by obedience to the Law, but rather through the blood of Jesus Christ, however, I believe the 10 Commandments are not the "Law"  but rather moral guidelines that govern our lives. To me a commandment is something that we MUST follow, so that we will live our lives to what God desires,  whereas a law is something we choose to obey so that we may be in accordance to said law.  If we choose not to obey then we will suffer the consequences of our choice.

3.I believe the 10 commandments are still in force in that they are what this world builds upon.  However, I do not believe if you break a commandment that you lose your salvation.  The Holy Spirit certainly guides us in righteous ways.

4. Amen – we are under His grace, but His grace is not meant to be misused.  
I am not sure that ithe above reference was a commandment but rather a teaching indicating the indeed the gate is narrow and much of what we see being taught today is far from the Truth.

5. Absolutely Nick, I agree that we must obey His commandment to love  and that to abide in Him is to love as He loves.  

Thanks for your post – God Bless You!  Peace, Diana

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Hello Everyone! Although it has been just a few days since I joined this forum, I am impressed with the depth this forum offers. Chris and I have a nightly chat room connected to our website, we are typically there Mon – Fri, 9 pm – 12 . Perhaps I am going out on limb here but we would love to have any of you join us for a “live” conversation about any God related topic. Our chat room is small and loving – it would be a great opportunity for all of us to fellowship – Proverbs 27:17 As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.

Below is a link to our site where you will find the chat room button – just enter and type your name. We hope to see you there! http://www.happyjesusday.com

God Bless You! Peace, Diana

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Amen Nick! But the Word is Jesus, right? (John 1:1-3) I love to keep it simple and focus on loving those that God has brought into my path regardless if it is in a physical sense (as my next door neighbor) or the orphanage in India that God has led me to help support, as well as those people I have yet to meet. Regardless of the discussions on this forum it all boils down to the simple commandment that we were given and instructed (Mark 12:28 -31) Peace, Diana

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Nick – When you refer to the Word of God, my heart automatically thinks of Yeshua, fullfillment of God's promise. So many people put faith in the bible when in fact, I believe that the bible is a great resource for us but God's “Word” is written on our hearts and minds (Jeremiah 33:31). The “true” word or book of God, does that really exist GBU, Diana

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Hi Nick – Thanks for the information. Let me ask you, when you say the Holy Spirit is of God do you mean that the Holy Spirit is God or a part of God. I prefer to think of the Holy Spirit as a means of communication (prayer) between God and man, which of course is through God's Son, Yeshua. GBU, Diana

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Ok – I just finished reading the posts on this thread (some are waaaaay over my pea brain !  I do have a question, is it possible that YHWH is Yeshua?  If YHWH is not the name of God and  I am not saying that God and Jesus are one or the same person.  But could it be possible that YHWH of the OT is also Yeshua?  I apologize if my question seems infantile, however I am enjoying this site, GBU!  Diana

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Hi Cubes!  It is my God given role to obey my husband, as he obeys Yeshua and Yeshua obeys our heavenly Father.  Very often tho, I run into men and women who have no understanding of biblical submissiveness –  a joke between my husband and I is that whenever I question his authority (and yes, I have my moments –  he runs to the bible to pull out his favorite verse (Col. 3:18) actually I am just playing a bit here. But imagine if men and women truly understood their God giving roles in marriages, I wonder what would become of the divorce rate then.  GBU and Happy Jesus Day!  Peace, Diana  

(I know this is a bit off the Trinity topic –   )

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Nick are you saying that the Holy Spirit is God and it is God's way to communicate with us. Then if that is the case and the Holy Spirit is infact God – then why is the Holy Spirit considered part of the Trinity doctrine.  If I am correct the Trinity doctrine claims there are 3 persons to the God head.  I do agree that it is the Holy Spirit that teaches us and communicates our needs on such a level that we are often even unaware of.   I believe that it is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that puts you in communication with God.  Peace, Diana

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Cubes I just had to say a BIG AMEN to the verse you posted! GBU!

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Thanks for all the information to my post!  I have a difficult time specifially with the two-fold reasoning that was giving in epistimanic's post.  Where does it say in scripture that the Isaiah 7:14 prophecy is a two-fold prophecy?  I am unaware of any.  Scholars, like any of us, can also have their opinions.   As far as the translation for the word virgin, again, it is speculation for the reason given.  In Romans 1:1-3 (NIV)1Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— 2the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,  This scripture tells me that Jesus was born in the line of David.  We know that Jesus was human and still the Son of God.  I don't believe any of us will truly have the “truth” until we meet our creator.  Its frustrating when there seems to be so much controversy regarding what one would think to be some of the basics of the Christian faith.  I believe that the two greatest commandments (Mark 12:28-30) is the simpliest way to explain our Father and His Son to new believers.  I will continue to study and pray – God Bless You!  Peace, Diana

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The Holy Spirit is something that has me perplexed. I do not believe in the trinity doctrine but yet whenever I tried to study the “Holy Spirit” that is all I ran into. Even using my bible dictionary – it lead me straight to arguments about the trinity. This is what I believe the Holy Spirit to be. First of – it is a spirit, not a person, which to me is defined as Flesh and Blood. One of my questions then is this, is the Holy Spirit God's spirit or is it another Spirit that God has created to assist us here on earth. The Holy Spirit is referred to as the counselor (John 15:26). I do not believe that the Holy Spirit is the actual spirit of God, but rather as an agent/helper/couselor. What are you thoughts?

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Hmm seems to be working just fine! I was just perusing the site and thought I would add my 2 cents worth too! Peace, Diana

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Thanks for responding! This is one my husband and I continue to look at and pray for His wisdom. God Be with you! Diana

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Although I have just joined, I would also like to add that your website has been encouraging to me the last few days as I continue to seek His truth. Giving God the glory and praise! Diana

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I must say this is something that we are looking at currently. To determine, if possible, that YHWH refers to Yeshua in the OT and not necessarily the Father. If anyone has any information or has studied this, please share. GBU – Happy Jesus Day!

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