Yes, David, good post and thanks for the clear response to those aspects of “Is's” questions. It also ties in to how it is that people can “worship/proskuneo” other human beings appropriately in scripture (not as GOD), and not have YHWH take offense, as we'd been discussing some pages back in the 20s and 30s I think.

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 27 2007,05:10)Quote (Cubes @ Jan. 25 2007,17:05)If we believed them to be on equal footing, then you are right.But I believe that Moses was a prophet of God, who was as God to Pharoah to the performing of wonders as granted by YHWH, one who could do nothing without God.Moses was real.  He really did exist and brought the…[Read more]

Thanks, Nick. Besides, Moses wrote it after the fact and Genesis 1-3 may well be a summary of events, and not necessarily detailed information. Why should God give us the details if he chose to create us last after the last mammals? Who can blame him?

Quote (Is 1:18 @ Jan. 21 2007,07:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 20 2007,09:28)Hi Is 1.18, Yes. For US there is ONE GOD the Father.So I would not be being true to scripture if I was to worship His Son or any other godly being.That would be polytheism and anathema for US.No polytheism is believing in more than one godly (divine) being……Only one…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Jan. 22 2007,08:49)In the Bible, we see that Israelite human judges were called gods, (“mighty ones, strong ones”) and that angels were called gods (“mighty ones, strong ones”)These were not false gods, were they?  NOPE.  NOPE!NOOOOO!They were “mighty ones.”  No question.  I HAVE A QUESTION, completely hypothetical:  If ever…[Read more]

Quote (sscott @ Dec. 27 2006,04:43)1 In the beginning God created the heavenS and the earth.Gen 1:1   In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  Gen 1:2   And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  Gen 1:3   And God said, Let there be l…[Read more]

Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 24 2006,19:59)I Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Seems to support the idea of Jesus being God in the flesh but also could be that God was…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2007,01:25)Quote Hi W,Your refusal to listen to Jesus does raise some questions about how he is your Lord? NHWhy do you say this?Did Jesus say he was not God. Did he refute their words? IMO, he did refute them by reiterating and emphasizing exactly what he said, which was different from what they said.A friend was…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 25 2007,03:21)Yes cubes, Act 17:18   Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection. Those who lived in idolatry thought…[Read more]

The Unknown God.  Acts 17A few things to touch on So for three Sabbath days in Thessalonica, Paul was in the synagogue of the JEWS (not atheists) reasoning with them OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES.  About what?   Christ is God?  God has been discovered as a Trinity?  Not!  Instead here is what he was telling them:  Christ must suffer, must rise again…[Read more]

ACTS 17:  WHO IS THE UNKNOWN GOD?Act 17:1   Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews:  Act 17:2   And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,  Act 17:3   Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs…[Read more]

And WJ,I feel to tell you that I speak specifically of the Trinity and not to your love for God or concerning other matters of the scriptures.  I feel the first commandment is fundamental to being the children of God through Christ so make no excuses for it (or else I would be a universalist who believed in various Gods and the way to them.  The w…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 24 2007,13:14)I can hear many of you already typing, but I am sorry I can not at this time respond.So I leave you with this. I pray the Father will bless you and the Son will keep you and the Holy Spirit will guide and lead you.In the Name of Jesus. Amen.Farewell. Love In Christ. Keith  Hi WJ,I've enjoyed posting…[Read more]

Quote (Morning Star @ Jan. 16 2007,16:33)In the history of Heaven.net does anyone know of any person ever actually changing their mind on their understanding of the trinity. This change could be away or towards the trinitarian perspective.I am just curious if anyone has actually had a change of mind.Has a trinitarian ever saw the light and became…[Read more]

Hi W, I am sorry about posting in the wrong thread. Please feel free to post any response to me in the trinity thread.

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 20 2007,03:49)Quote Hi W,Was Jesus God when he was man?In whose power did he work ? Both he and the Father worked. The Father indwelled him through the Spirit from the Jordan.Look real close.Jn 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him,…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 14 2006,11:06)God holds the patents on a lot of designs.  Very intelligent engineers are copying a lot of those designs.  If intelligence is required simply to copy nature, wouldn't intelligence be required to create it in the first place?Sure thing, David.For something (the universe and all that is in it) that just happened a…[Read more]

I looked up three sites related to the flag of Israel on google and have posted excerpts from those sites.  They state that the symbol of the star of David dates back to biblical times but give no scriptural references.  It is believed that David used the symbol on his shield… Thus it would seem that Modern Israel and the Zionists before them p…[Read more]

Also in another thread, I'd mentioned how I've wondered why Israel's flag bears the symbol of “the star of David”?  I had no recollection of coming across a star of David in scripture and was therefore not sure whether the people of Israel chose this as a symbol of their persecutions and diaspora, given all that they went through during the…[Read more]

As with Moses, blood was shed when God made his covenant with Abraham concerning the Promise(Genesis 15:8-11 above, & Heb 9:16f, Galatians).Hebrews 9:16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.…[Read more]