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Quote (malcolm ferris @ June 09 2006,14:00)Could you elaborate on the following please as I am interested to get your take on this.Quote There are other sons of God, angels, Jews and even men.I'm sure the last part was just unintended – Jews and even men.I'm sure you don't mean that Jews are not men.lol!

Hi Malcolm:Was death through disobedience not intended to be a curse? 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

Quote (Oneway2besaved @ June 09 2006,11:01)The second verse you include but the translation is in the point you are favoring.  Your NIV version of Acts2:32 “God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact.”  If you quoted form the NKJV the verse reads like this  Acts2:32 “This Jesus God has raised up,of which we are all wi…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2006,03:29)Hi, Thanks cubes, It is the verses such as Phil 2.5-7 for example that bear no semblance to modern speech and are so clumbsy that they are used to justify all kinds of false doctrine that shows we should not rely just on one version.NIV also does not always play by the rules and inserts “Jesus” in Jn 12.41…[Read more]

Hello all:I use the KJV or NKJV most of the time out of preference for varying reasons:   I learned verses in that version and can find my way through it quicker, I like the language “the LORD is my Shepherd, I shall not want” or “Our Father which art in Heaven” flows nicer to me than some other versions, It is easier to get it in large or small…[Read more]

Hi Malcolm & Nick:My understanding as I said sometime ago in the “Are We Born With Sin” thread (I think), is that Adam sinned and so passed from life to death.  As a result all in Adam die the first death…. from Adam, to Mary the mother of Jesus, the Apostles and even our Lord who in his exception, had to lay his life down because he did not go…[Read more]

Quote (Scripture Seeker @ June 07 2006,05:31)Hi Cubes,This was only an example of HUMAN unity. God’s word clearly shows the unity that the father and Son share, Jesus said the Father and I are ONE.Hello SS,Hope you are well as is your family.I was set to respond to your post item by item, and perhaps I shall, but I came across this passage and f…[Read more]

Quote (epistemaniac @ June 07 2006,02:00)Quote However the unity betwen the Father and the Son is not forever a unity of being. If it was then the Father has never had a Son.Oh? And why is this? I see no reason why the Father and the Son could not have the same unity of being and yet still be called “the Son”. After all, “the Son” is just one way…[Read more]

Quote (Semjâzâ @ June 06 2006,12:19)You are correct to question t8! That sought of thinking may save your soul. Go with that feeling for you are right! Seek the truth. Find the Light.Dont follow the lambs to slaughter.SemjâzâAnd again:Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or fa…[Read more]

Quote (Semjâzâ @ June 06 2006,12:19)You are correct to question t8! That sought of thinking may save your soul. Go with that feeling for you are right! Seek the truth. Find the Light.Dont follow the lambs to slaughter.SemjâzâIt is written:Jhn 10:29 My Father, which gave me, is greater than all; and no is able to pluck out of my Fathe…[Read more]

Quote (Scripture Seeker @ June 07 2006,04:10)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2006,23:03)Hi ss, So who is the being who was WITH the Father. This fact is recorded at least three times in scripture. If you say it was Jesus, and I agree, in what way can a being be WITH another being and remain part of that being?Hi Nick,Could it be Like we have a Body…[Read more]

Thanks Nick, that is helpful.

Hey Epistemaniac,Don't mind saying that it's good to “see” you again. I am sure we shall disagree soon enough but I am happy to see you back and yes, I have missed you. I have not yet read your posts so let me get to them and looking forward to the discussions.

Clarification: All things are sustained by GOD through Christ.

Quote Hi Cubes, good to hear from you.Same here.  Hope you're feeling better from your GI thing.Quote Actually, I have to disagree here. We are told that “theos” indwells us. Never in scripture are we said to have “Theotes” indwell us, let alone the fullness of it permanently settling in our body. Its an important, and telling, distinction that…[Read more]

Adding to your list Nick, The son could not be the Heir of all things.And we could not be co-heirs with the Son.Or the Father would also be an heir, which he is not.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2006,09:30)Hi cubes,If Jesus called them husbands surely they were legally married to the woman, who I would have thought had been widowed. Perhaps the curse spoken of in the apocryphal book of Tobit scared her off remarrying?In two of the three accounts of Jesus discussing divorce it is said to be anathema, but in…[Read more]

Quote (malcolm ferris @ June 06 2006,11:10)I CORINTHIANS 6:16What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. the act of physical union is considered by God as one flesh – a marraige, be it legitimate or not.Hi Malcolm, I agree.  One Flesh translating to a marriage, yes provided there is…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2006,08:05)Hi cubes, The Sadducees quizzed Jesus over the woman with seven husbands. Yet he was not fazed and made it an issue of no concern. He also made no comment to the woman at the well about her many marriages though he did comment that she was not married to her current partner perhaps differentiating that…[Read more]