Yes, I am wondering the same thing? Where are you, David? Hope all is well with you and yours.:)

Just thought to throw this scripture in for good measure as relates to appearances of Christ in the OT, before he came in the flesh.  Dan 3:25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Quote (kenrch @ July 08 2006,06:02)Quote (Cubes @ July 07 2006,22:59)Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2006,03:44)Hi cubes and kenrch,The Nephilim are not of God's original plan for creation it would seem. They are all the fruit of rebellion. Enoch suggests they are the demons of esrth and not in a prison but many will not accept such information.…[Read more]

Quote (freeman @ July 08 2006,03:33)Thanks, Nick. Yes, good verses indeed.  I tried to explain that on another forum, but the folks were adamantly opposed to that idea.Hi Freeman, They were opposed to the idea that God keeps a remnant? What is their reasoning?I agree that God always has a remnant. Let the redeemed of the LORD say so! When God…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2006,03:44)Hi cubes and kenrch,The Nephilim are not of God's original plan for creation it would seem. They are all the fruit of rebellion. Enoch suggests they are the demons of esrth and not in a prison but many will not accept such information. Would God offer salvation to them??I can't see demons being preached to,…[Read more]

Except that if that be the case, then the entire human population is not as purely human as we thought, and that on second thought again, causes the whole thing to unravel.  And Based on that, I have to believe that the Noahs are purely ADAM!So again, were N@phil classified as living things/flesh or the only `Enowsh that were destroyed without a…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 08 2006,01:33)Hi cubes, ENOWSH is far, far more common that ADAM when used of man.  ADAM perhaps is used when God wants to remind men of their first human parentage?Thanks Nick.  If men like regular men, then surely flesh and living things.  So what are the chances that as Kenrch points out, Noah or one of the women ha…[Read more]

From July 7, 2006 by Kenrch:Quote Cubes are you saying that when Noah put two of every animal in the ark he included the Nephilim?Why would He do that the purpose of the flood was to get rid of the Nephilims.  Hi Ken and all:We do not know that the purpose of the flood was to get rid of the Nephilim.  In fact, according to Genesis 6, it was ADAM t…[Read more]

From July 06, 2006ANOTHER PUZZLERGen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. Excerpts for GENESIS 6vs 1 = …when ADAM began to multiply on the face of the earth…vs 2 = the sons of…[Read more]

Hi Ken:I should have posted the above in the original Nephilim thread. So can we transfer the conversation back there. I shall paste my post from yesterday there and respond to yours if I can.

Hi Ken:When you say that they were carried over by Noah, what do you mean? through his genes or aboard his ark?

ANOTHER PUZZLERGen 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. Excerpts for GENESIS 6vs 1 = …when ADAM began to multiply on the face of the earth…vs 2 =  the sons of God (ben `elohiym)…[Read more]

Hi Ken:Thanks for your post.  May be there's something I am overlooking, but perhaps you can help.  Why would Jesus preach to angels?  You've got to provide at least one supporting scripture by which we may arrive at that conclusion or understand this new thing you say about preaching to angels.I admit that I haven't given much thought to Ne…[Read more]

Welcome ronday!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 05 2006,01:11)Hi S and W, And remember God's word never returns to Him void. Paul never spoke without at least one turning to the Lord and some will grasp onto the hope they see in you to go searching for themselves and find safety. You may not see that fruit instantly but you are planting seeds of truth that will bring…[Read more]

Quote (Woutlaw @ July 05 2006,00:54)Another thing I would like to share with you is don't get caught up in the thought that one has to go to seminary to understand God's word. Nor do you have to be an “ordained” minister to be used by God. I've heard many say that you have to be taught by man or go to seminary to understand God's word. Hog wash.…[Read more]

Hi Semmy:In addition to what has been said, if Trinitarians take Genesis 18 to mean proof of a Trinity, then shouldn't they also admit that members of the Trinity are men and angels? Genesis 18:2, 22; Genesis 19:1.What is known for a fact is that YHWH does send angels and men. But we have not been told that he is an angel or a man.

I also want to clarify and say that I do not necessarily equate a large or rich church with the fact that people are doing God's will, any more than saying a small church or financially poorer church is a sign of failure.  To be honest, I tend to enjoy the fellowship at smaller churches more.  Of course, it is Christ who determines who is knit t…[Read more]

Quote (seminarian @ June 29 2006,23:50)So that's why I have my own ministry and after ordination will most likely consider starting my own church. However, I am going to run into people just like this all the time.  So I see my work there as a mission field to help those who really have been deceived through no fault of their own.  The Pharisees d…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ June 29 2006,04:24)Fallen angels of Noah's time. (the Nephilim)1Pe 3:19  By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 1Pe 3:20  Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by w…[Read more]