Thank God, Paul is not saying that women cannot teach based on lack of intelligence, thus this is not a question of inability. In fact, he seems to realize full well that women are capable but is asking them to DEFER and yield to the men, bearing in mind who was here first, and the fact that women are more susceptible to deception. Teaching, to…[Read more]

Hi Mercy,We must try and determine the difference b/n preaching and teaching.  Women can prophesy and preach.  Preaching or prophesying informs and in my view, embodies teaching.  Does it not?Gotta run for the time being.  Talk to you later.

The other question now is how Christian gentiles, women and servants are to conduct themselves in an atmosphere of an unbelieving Jew, man or master.

Quote (Mercy @ Sep. 29 2006,14:37)It seems to me that the main issue is a matter of divine roles established by God. These exist because God knows best. He made us and knows how we work. He knows men have egos that need fed, he knows women have need of being loved and cherished. He establishes order because he is not a God of confusion.Amen,…[Read more]

Nick & Ken,I think you are saying the same thing, aren't you?Ken: I like your analogy of the wallet and I think that returning the wallet demonstrates love of one's neighbor, and so fulfilling the second commandment as a result of the first.

Quote (jahman @ Sep. 29 2006,02:19)kenrch, no problem here, Jesus and Paul were on the same page. Our righteousness is as filthy rags, even it includes:1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all…[Read more]

Debra, Great testimony of God's goodness and salvation.

Quote (david @ Sep. 28 2006,07:03)Quote I am female too.  Good to have you here.You're female Cubes?  Really?This scripture just came to mind.   I like it.GALATIANS 3:28“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor freeman, there is neither male nor female; for YOU are all one in union with Christ Jesus.”Hey David, thanks.I like t…[Read more]

Hey Debra & Mercy,Thanks a lot.  Very informative question and response, respectively.The issue of male and female is similar to that between Jews and gentiles.Gal 3:28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. At the same time, Jesus tells the Samaritan w…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 27 2006,10:49)Coincidental to your question, Just a moment ago, I sought out this chatroom forum to tell you and others that in a week or so, my use of this site may be greatly limited, as my job situation is changing somewhat drastically.  I don't know how long that will last, but for a time, I certainly won't be on here as…[Read more]

The question I have is, if men and women are to have the same roles (in authority), then why did Jesus not include women among the apostles in the first place? Why Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah…Benjamin, and not Dinah? Why no queens in the lineage of King David? For sure, The prophetess Miriam was noted to be a leader of Israel, together with…[Read more]

Quote (Debra @ Sep. 26 2006,15:29)Are there any other women out there,there are some questions I have reguarding women in ministry and I would love to discuss this with a women on board too.Hi Debra,I am female too. Good to have you here.

Hi David,When you finish your research, tell me nothing.

Hi A007:As I read your post, some thoughts came to mind, chiefly the subject of godly love.Jesus said that the greatest of all the commandments is to love God, followed by love for neighbor.  Paul also writes:1Cr 13:3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed , and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me n…[Read more]

Hi t8,Clarification. I do not mean to imply that you or anyone else would prefer to see either person go by my comment above. It is obvious that most are being impartial and wanting things to work out favorably for all. This is about the Lord's body after all. Let wisdom and love prevail.

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 22 2006,23:22)So back to the real issue:Where/what post did Nick deceptively edit. I await the answer. If there is no proof then the accuser should go, unless he apologises. If Nick did deceptively edit a post and lie about it, then surely he has to go unless he repents.I think that is fair. Obviously people want justice and this…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 20 2006,21:31)Quote (Cubes @ Sep. 19 2006,22:09)Hi Kenrch,Regarding Nick's sharing of the PM sent to him, I think in this case Nick was right to share it for the following reasons (and please don't think I am taking sides.  I consider both H & Nick as my brothers and friends):1.  The content of the PM is about Nick (Not H), t…[Read more]

Hi Ken,My attempt to say much would result in speculating about things I know nothing of, and perhaps adding fuel to fire. We are to settle disagreements in the manner you described, but what of actual threats or perceived threats?

Hi Kenrch,Regarding Nick's sharing of the PM sent to him, I think in this case Nick was right to share it for the following reasons (and please don't think I am taking sides.  I consider both H & Nick as my brothers and friends):1.  The content of the PM is about Nick (Not H), thus Nick's prerogative to do with it what he wants.   2.  H said tha…[Read more]

Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 20 2006,03:04)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 19 2006,12:02)The bible is complete there are no other instructions left to give.  So the Spirit should agree with scripture.  I don't remember (other than a word of knowledge) the Spirit saying anything contrary to the Word.Hi KenrchEven in a word of knowledge, what the Spirit says should l…[Read more]