Did you know that Shaul (apostle Paul), Gamaliel, and Nicodemus in the New Testament were famous Pharisees?There were both sincere 'Elohim loving Pharisees and hypocrites. Both the Bible and the Talmud mention the existence of hypocrisy.Yeshua condemned the hypocrisy that the Pharisees had, but He didn't blame all Pharisees.Apostle Paul was…[Read more]

peace2all,Did that come from the Forerunner commentary? That is one of my favorite commentaries.

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,10:32)TO ALL:I just received my second tile for a comment to Constitutionalist above. I stand by my statement. Con called people “pagans” more than once on the halloween thread and he has no tiles. I Praise God for my second tile!thinkerUsing the format above, explain how calling anyone who worships pagan halloween…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 11 2009,01:55)Constitutionalist is a pharisee.thinkerPersonal attacks make you feel good?

Quote (banana @ Dec. 11 2009,02:01)Quote (seekingtruth @ Oct. 31 2009,01:29)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 30 2009,18:01)Quote (Douglas @ Oct. 30 2009,02:00)Quote (942767 @ Oct. 30 2009,13:18)God is true to His Word.  If He has spoken something He will surely bring it to pass.  Having said this, I know that there are false prophets.  If so…[Read more]

I love watching folks try to push anothers button and are let down for the response they far from anticipated. Especially as T8 basically stated, it's a non-issue, and so what?Gotta luv it.

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 10 2009,22:03)Quote (Not3in1 @ Oct. 27 2009,05:42)Brother's and sister's (and even those who don't consider me such because their theories will not allow it),I've been doing a lot of back reading here at HeavenNet.  I daresay that I've read nearly every thread now.My faith is shot.  I believe there is a God/Creator and that is a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2009,18:53)hi ronwe never will reach God s understanding by our intelect based on knowledge,but through faith in our hearst and the love for God.True, but what does that have to do with what we a chatting about?

Quote (peace2all @ Dec. 10 2009,18:38)your arguing yourself.i don't think anyone said that the commandments are gone, non exsistant.what has been said is that jesus magnified it in his way, his teachings his works. to show how. his example is the new way now. we need to follow his example, thus he is the new law. the old made new. but he now is…[Read more]

Quote Is the law the old covenant? Heb 8:1-13 No

Quote Which law? (Col 2:14) (Ceremonial)The “handwriting of ordinances” clearly identifies this law as the ceremonial law. The remark that this law was “against us” further identifies this as the ceremonial law.The ceremonial law written by Moses was placed on the side of the ark. Dt 31:24-26The stone tablets, moral law, written by 'Elohim's own…[Read more]

Quote Which law? (Eph 2:15) (Ceremonial)The “law of commandments contained in ordinances” refers to the ceremonial law. (compare Ex 12:43, Nu 9:12, Col 2:14,17)The law “abolished in his flesh” refers to the ceremonial law. Yeshua HaMoshiach is the sole sacrifice for sin to Whom it pointed. Jn 1:29, Heb 10:1-4,11,19,20, 1Pe 2:24

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 10 2009,17:56)Hi CON, Do you think you are bound by the OT law? By your jewish roots?Nope

Quote Did the law become obsolete after Yeshua HaMoshiach came? Gal 3:19-25 Ceremonial law — Yes Moral law — No”It was added because of transgressions till the seed should come to whom the promise was made.” (from Gal 3:19)”added”'Elohim's moral law was known prior to Sinai. (examples: Ge 26:5, Ex 16:28-30)'Elohim's ceremonial law was known…[Read more]

Quote Did Yeshua HaMoshiach end the law? Ro 10:4 NoThe verse does not say Yeshua HaMoshiach ended the law. Rather, it says He is the end (goal / end result) of the law. Gal 3:24Yeshua HaMoshiach is the fulfillment of the law in the sense of being the perfect example of a life in harmony with 'Elohim's law. Mt 5:17, Jn 15:10, Heb 4:15, 1Jn 2:4-6

Quote Not “under” the law Ro 6:14We are no longer under the external letter of the law, but rather under the indwelling Spirit that loves the law. Ro 7:6, 2Co 3:3, Heb 8:10, Heb 10:15,16We are no longer as children under the external supervision of the law. Gal 3:24,25, Gal 4:1-7We are no longer hopeless lawbreakers under the condemnation of the…[Read more]

Quote Is the law a shackel and burden? Act 15:5,10,11,24 NoThe context is a controversy about whether physical circumcision should continue to be required.The law mentioned here is the ceremonial law, not the Ten Commandments moral law.Physical circumcision is a symbol of a spiritual condition that is to be realized through faith in the Messiah.…[Read more]

Quote If Yeshua HaMoshiach relaxed the punishment for breaking the law, then doesn't that imply that the importance of following the law is diminished? Jn 8:3-9 compare Lev 20:10 NoYeshua HaMoshiach did not relax the punishment. He took on the punishment Himself. Jn 1:29, 1Pe 2:24Yeshua HaMoshiach emphasized that we must abandon sin, which is the…[Read more]

Quote Was the law minimized or eliminated by the gospel? Lk 16:16 NoThe pre-context refers to the covetous nature of the religious leaders. Lk 16:14-16The “law and the prophets” refers to the old testament scriptures.The old testament scriptures are focused around the coming Messiah (Yeshua HaMoshiach). Lk 24:27, Jn 5:39The message of those…[Read more]