Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,13:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,07:33)Hi TT, But that is catholic theology not truth. Can you offer anything more SUBSTANTIAL?Hebrews 1 says that Christ is the “radiance” of God.thinkerRadiance doesn't make him a god.The Messiah in that he perfectly reflects the majesty of 'Elohim.For 'elohim, who commanded…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,13:26)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 16 2009,08:24)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,13:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,07:33)Hi TT, But that is catholic theology not truth. Can you offer anything more SUBSTANTIAL?Hebrews 1 says that Christ is the “radiance” of God.thinkerHe shines forthExactly because He is…[Read more]

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Dec. 15 2009,15:00)Jesus is the word which became fleshAn Englishman is the word which became fleshAn Greek is the word which became fleshOr was it a Jew? If it was a Jew what was his name? And if he has a Jewish name why do you REFUSE to use it? Anti-Semitism for the last 2000 years?

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 15 2009,07:07)Con: Neither of us know whether she continued or not! Its doesn't matter.  But if adultry was against the law of Moses then Jesus broke the law of Moses or established a new law. Belief always comes first to a person and then from that belief an action is created. IE: Adam partook or accepted or believed and…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 15 2009,07:07)Con: Neither of us know whether she continued or not! Its doesn't matter.  But if adultry was against the law of Moses then Jesus broke the law of Moses or established a new law. Belief always comes first to a person and then from that belief an action is created. IE: Adam partook or accepted or believed and…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,13:11)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,07:33)Hi TT, But that is catholic theology not truth. Can you offer anything more SUBSTANTIAL?Hebrews 1 says that Christ is the “radiance” of God.thinkerHe shines forth

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,01:22)CON said:Quote Thought we were talking ESV, now your talking NASB.Personally I use KJV, it is far better than the ESV or the NASB, even with it's translation problems.  I also refuse to use any bible with a copyright law. Because it is bastardized even farther.You're being evasive. I am not talking about the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 14 2009,13:43)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,16:21)Hi WJ,Is Jesus not your appointed master and Lord?You should obey the one God appointed over you.But he is ever subject to the one who appointed him.NHIs he…1 Cor 15:28Remember Jesus hasn't subjected himself and the Kingdom to the Father yet, has he?Imagine…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,00:58)WorshippingJesus said to Con:Quote The fact that a couple of early manuscripts reads it Jesus just adds weight to it.WJ,Not only do the EARLY manuscripts that say “Jesus” add weight to it, but by Con's own standards the EARLY manuscripts would be AS the originals. Note what he said,“Original – Oldest same…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 15 2009,03:06)Did anyone on this page even consider not judging and condemning this situation. The very person called lord of all, prince of peace, Jesus the Christ didn't judge or condemn the lady caught in the act of adultry and if Jesus was following the law, she should have been stoned!! If he refused to condemn that…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,18:55)Hi CON, So we are grafted into the new united Israel.The new JerusalemIsrael is not new, the covenant is, and you are, you grafted into Israel. Israel went from spiritual, to physical, back to spiritual.Even when it was physical, faith and grace still abounded.Quit trying to make Israel into something dirty…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,18:38)Hi CON,Yes it was seen but for all men now the offer is “Grace and peace ..through Jesus Christ”The new IsraelHebrews 8:6-10 “But now has he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant h…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,13:19)Hi KW, The jewish ten commandments are under discussion.Given to the Jews because grace was yet to be given to enable the law of love to be lived.Grace was in the OLD TESTAMENT.Question for you: Who was the New Covenant for?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 14 2009,09:59)Hi CON, DO NOT is negative. It offers only boundaries. Love is not. It offers motivation.DO NOT steal is negative?So DO steal is positive?I rest my case.

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 14 2009,13:07)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 15 2009,06:53)hi edJyou are not a saintHi Terraricca,The bible says you should not judge.I also never said I was an Apostle?God blessEd Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEvery believer is a priest. 1Pe 2:5,9, Rev 1:5,6, Rev 5:9,10The terms layman, layperson, and laity do not appear anywhere…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 13 2009,17:07)Constitutionalist said:Quote So it is a better translation because the preface say's so?LOL, your too much. Did you read the OP to this thread? Or do you have a reading comprehension problem? The NASB translators themselves, though they chose the variant reading “the Lord” acknowledge that the “Jesus” reading…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Dec. 13 2009,06:30)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 14 2009,01:28)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 13 2009,06:19)ConQuote You blame 'Elohim?  Why not blame the wicked for there fate? Blinding the wicked and hardening their hearts is the fault of the wicked  This expresses a positive divine act, by which those who wilfully close their eyes and h…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 13 2009,18:27)Hi CON, Of course it is not the negative ten commandments written of the hearts of reborn men but the positive reverse polarity.When were the “Ten Commandments” ever negative?1. Do not have other gods (Ge 35:2-4)2. Do not have idols (Ge 35:2-4)3. Do not misuse the Lord's name (Ge 12:7,8 and Ge 21:33 indicate…[Read more]

Sadly you think your argument is with me. Set me aside and they all are still disagreeing with you.

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 13 2009,16:54)Quote (Constitutionalist @ Dec. 14 2009,11:47)Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 13 2009,16:22)Constitutionalist said:Quote The original “manuscript” does not have “Jesus” saving people out of Egypt.Con,You incessantly misunderstand my point. I am just trying to show that your claim that the Novum testamentum Graece is…[Read more]