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    The “spirit of truth” was a new spirit, it is the Father and Son combined in one gift. The “Holy spirit” and the “comforter” are two different things. Jesus said mankind would benefit from his return to his place in heaven because we would receive this NEW gift. All truth seekers in the world benefit from this gift that is still present.

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    The “harsh reality” is that the human heart is deceitful and above all things desperately wicked. You two are an example of how a man will rationalize an outrage leveled against God simply to defend the fetishism of biblical idolatry. God has never regretted anything that he has done or will ever do. And according to your specious explanation,…[Read more]

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    I didn’t say man is infinite, man is finite, he has a beginning. The Son is infinite, he created the world that he incarnate into.

    I’m using your bible that contradicts what you say. What a sick idea of God to teach young children, that God deliberately blinds people, sends men to rape murder and kill children! Grow a set of balls and get honest!!!!!

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    Jesus didn’t get the memo that God blinded the people he was trying to save. This is the kind of stuff that turns people off from contradictory Christianity.

    37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and y…[Read more]

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    Its not rocket science or some special pseudo prophecy, Jesus tried to preach to the Jews, they were only blinded by pride not some stupid theory that God is double minded and blinds people while trying to reach them. This kind of retarded thinking is just excuse making for why the self important Israelites broke the covenant and were left desolate.

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    Spock replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 9 months ago

    We had a beginning in time, we are finite, potentially eternal. God the Son existed with the I AM before this world was, in eternity. He is the creator of the world, man is not the creator of the world.

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    Never said the bible is rubbish, I’ve said the priestly government controlled what went in the scripture as well as the official interpretation of events. Its like the newspaper, we have to consider the bias and human imperfection of the authors. But then in Babylon it was all rewritten again, some books don’t exist anymore. Then the NT cannon was…[Read more]

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    The incarnate Son was of duel origin, at times he spoke as man subject to the will of Father during his incarnate life, at other times by divine rite. Jesus is in effect the Father of his co-creation, the existential I AM is his Father, the source of his divine being and the source of all reality. We know of the Father through the Son. To see…[Read more]

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    The religions of authority divide men, the religion of the spirit draws men together.

    Jesus’ own people rejected him by the religion of scriptural authority rather than allowing the spirit of his teachings to penetrate their hearts. They are still blinded, not by God but by the fetish of idolatry, of the stories the priest wrote.

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    Men fear confronting the false accusations written about God by the self important Jews because they are moral cowards, biblical idolatry is a “safe” place to hide. Besides, the Hebrew priest made no claim of divine inspiration when they rewrote the OT books in Babylon, converting secular history into a miraculous fiction. Myself, I have a…[Read more]

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    Same go’s for the list of so called errors in the UB. I’ve read both the bible and the UB, the bible starts out with mixed up stories, God aborting the world etc.

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    (1390.3) 126:3.8 “While turning all these problems over in his mind, he found in the synagogue library at Nazareth, among the apocalyptic books which he had been studying, this manuscript called “The Book of Enoch”; and though he was certain that it had not been written by Enoch of old, it proved very intriguing to him, and he read and reread it…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 24 2014,21:09)Colter. You trust the Urantia with your soul. That is the biggest price you can pay for anything.I trust God, Urantia is just the name of our planet.God is a spiritual presence, we can by faith have a relationship with him. Your argument is based on having a technical relationship with authoritative religion, with a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Mary @ May 16 2014,17:41)Where is the celtibeirian summary colter?  :):)

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    t8, I posted a clip at the top of this page from the UB that explains the “revelation mandate.” * in the UB community we are well aware of the apparent errors in the science that the revelators were confined to using on their mission.* we are aware of science that was not credible in 1955, but has been proven to be consistent with new…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ May 10 2014,21:28)What about the planet Mercury? Seems to me that they took discoveries in that time and called them revelation. And the preposterous stuff that happened billions of years a ago or whatever are too hard to prove. Like Atheists they both hide behind huge amounts of time and make statements that no one can prove or…[Read more]

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    Inner Ionosphere Summary”In discussing earth's atmosphere, The Urantia Book states the following, “The lower five or six miles of the earth's atmosphere is the troposphere; this is the region of winds and air currents which provide weather phenomena. Above this region is the inner ionosphere and next above is the stratosphere.” Urantia Book…[Read more]

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    Vikings Summary”The Urantia Book states that the Native Americans of North America did not come in contact with the white Europeans until about 1000 A.D. When it was published in 1955, this was a contested issue because no artifacts or other physical evidence of the presence of the white race in the Americas existed from this time period. The…[Read more]

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    Early Migration to Britain Summary”The Ancient Human Occupation of Britain project (“AHOB project”) was launched in 2001 to revitalize the study of ancient archaeological sites in Britain. By 2005 AHOB researchers were able to establish that primitive man occupied Britain 700,000 years ago. This discovery came as quite a surprise the arc…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ May 05 2014,16:55)The Bible evolved, now believers are stuck with it because some knucklehead said it was written by God.

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