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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,07:59)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,05:46)(4.7) 0:2.13 2. God the Son — Co-ordinate Creator, Spirit Controller, and Spiritual Administrator. The Eternal Son, the Second Person of Deity.Didn't you just scold t8 for implying that Jesus was the “second person in your trinity”?   ???Okay.  So it seems that “God the Son…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 21 2013,06:06)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,03:09)Quote There are no deities:Allah! There is no deity save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him. Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    The Infinity of God(33.4) 2:1.1 “Touching the Infinite, we cannot find him out. The divine footsteps are not known.” “His understanding is infinite and his greatness is unsearchable.” The blinding light of the Father’s presence is such that to his lowly creatures he apparently “dwells in the thick darkness.” Not only are his thoughts and plans uns…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote There are no deities:Allah! There is no deity save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him. Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    GodForward to the Urantia Book(3.14) 0:2.1 Evolving mortal creatures experience an irresistible urge to symbolize their finite concepts of God. Man’s consciousness of moral duty and his spiritual idealism represent a value level — an experiential reality — which is difficult of symbolization.(3.15) 0:2.2 Cosmic consciousness implies the recog…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,14:25)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,20:24)Notice that Jesus said “and from now on you know him and have seen him.” this was a frank and new disclosure to the apostles.Funny how all those disciples went on to write hundreds of scriptures that clearly distinguish our savior Jesus Christ FROM his God and Father who sent…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Bodhitharta, I think of them all as God, only for purposes of discussing the structure of divine reality do I distinguish. Colter

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,13:02)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,19:16)He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?So you are really arguing for a “Urantia ONENESS doctrine” then, and NOT for a “Urantia TRINITY doctrine”, right?The tri…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 20 2013,12:26)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:26)(1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,11:03)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,05:51) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41)I agree that Jesus existed with divine nature/in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, served God, died for humanity, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of God in the glory that he had with the Father before the…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,11:13)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,10:04)And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity.We don't deny that Jesus was divine, Colter.  Angels are also said to be divine in scripture.  And even we have the chance to partake in divinity, right?It seems you are arguing against us about things on whi…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,08:33)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,04:17)Yes, I do, they are all ONE in will. God is spirit. All of the many divine beings are one with the Father. Man can, if he will, become ONE with the Father, if he pursues the path ordained by the Father. The Paradise Creator Sons are the Fathers of their created universes,…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    People should read the Forward to the UB in order to understand the teachings in the papers on the Trinity.Forward to the Urantia BookColter

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,04:04)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,03:04)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:37)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14)No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity:     The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a M…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:37)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14)No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity:     The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”No you along with those brainwashed by the Trini…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 20 2013,02:28)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:26)(1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of…[Read more]

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    (1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing. It is preserved i…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic in the forum Islam 12 years, 8 months ago

    The Ka'ba fetish:(1051.1) 95:7.3 Here and there throughout Arabia were families and clans that held on to the hazy idea of the one God. Such groups treasured the traditions of Melchizedek, Abraham, Moses, and Zoroaster. There were numerous centers that might have responded to the Jesusonian gospel, but the Christian missionaries of the desert…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14)So your rebuttal is just one of the many weak arguments employed by the anti divinity fringe.Your words are false or bear false witness about me. I agree that Jesus existed with divine nature/in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, served God, died for humanity, rose…[Read more]

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    Spock replied to the topic Urantia Trinity in the forum Other Faiths 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,20:44)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,17:18)Jesus is answering the blasphemy charge, he's not denying that he is in fact the Son of God. He had a clever wit about him.You missed the point. He is not claiming to be God.No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity: The Jews…[Read more]

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