Quote (t8 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:17)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,15:32)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:10)Colter.The fact that you believe in a Trinity at all proves your foundation is faulty. No amount of verses and no amount of human reasoning can stand when the foundation is wrong.Even if you think the building is strong, if the foundation is weak, it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:12)Colter. You have rejected the word of God and accepted the doctrine of demons and wisdom of man. That is your choice of course. It is your soul, hence you do with as you see fit.1 Timothy 4:1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,10:25)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,10:57)The purpose is to create another gospel, and another Jesus. To confuse the seekers.Agreed.Galatians 1:8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!EVEN AN ANGEL, Colter.LOL! Paul p…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,10:14)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,17:02)Argue your point with Jesus then, setting aside the mental gymnastics of belligerent denial.Jesus is the one who told me that my Father is also his Father, and my God is also his God.I believe him, therefore I have nothing to argue with him about.When Jesus said, “I am…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:05)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,16:29)We will bid farewell to Christ where he is resident on the headquarters world at “the right hand of the Father” We will continue on through many more phases as we make our way to Paradice where we will one day stand in the presence of the Eternal God.So we'll bid farewell to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:12)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,16:35)…….you don't even seem to understand what you don't agree with, so for now it's best to stick with your current beliefs.I don't agree that the Son OF the only “Eternal Creator God” could BE that very same “Eternal Creator God” that he is the Son OF.And I will stick with…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:23)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,15:40)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:16)Colter. Jesus is the image of the invisible God.We are also made in the image of God.No image is the source. That is common sense.We do not believe that any image is the source. Thus the image of God is not God but his image.Likewise, the son of God is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 22 2013,09:12)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,16:35)…….you don't even seem to understand what you don't agree with, so for now it's best to stick with your current beliefs.I don't agree that the Son OF the only “Eternal Creator God” could BE that very same “Eternal Creator God” that he is the Son OF.And I will stick with…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 22 2013,03:45)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,21:56)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,16:53)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,13:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,11:24)BTW: JESUS IS NOT MICHAEL THE ARCH ANGEL.HE CREATED ALL THE ANGELS.***WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE***.HOW CAN THE CREATOR ALSO BE THE CREATURE.*WITHOUT THE…[Read more]

Happy birthday Jesus The Birth of Jesus(1351.5) 122:8.1 All that night Mary was restless so that neither of them slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well in evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a male child. Jesus of Nazareth was…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,16:53)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,13:46)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,11:24)BTW: JESUS IS NOT MICHAEL THE ARCH ANGEL.HE CREATED ALL THE ANGELS.***WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE***.HOW CAN THE CREATOR ALSO BE THE CREATURE.*WITHOUT THE CREATOR* WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE** MICHAEL WAS MADE BY…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,16:03)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,12:31)Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 20 2013,12:26)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:26)(1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a…[Read more]

You asked:(513.4) 45:4.1 At the center of the seven angelic residential circles on Jerusem is located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory council, the four and twenty counselors. John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders: “And round about the throne were four and twenty seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders s…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,12:41)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:26)(1555.7) 139:4.14 “When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,13:36)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 21 2013,12:32)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:10)Colter.The fact that you believe in a Trinity at all proves your foundation is faulty. No amount of verses and no amount of human reasoning can stand when the foundation is wrong.Even if you think the building is strong, if the foundation is weak,…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 21 2013,11:24)BTW: JESUS IS NOT MICHAEL THE ARCH ANGEL.HE CREATED ALL THE ANGELS.***WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE***.HOW CAN THE CREATOR ALSO BE THE CREATURE.*WITHOUT THE CREATOR* WAS NOT ANYTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE** MICHAEL WAS MADE BY JESUS.wakeup.Never said he was. Michael is the heavenly name for the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:16)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,15:16)It is clearly there Mike but my experience has been that people from the JW sect or any denier group, perform an incredible self deception in mid flight. That is to say that when they read the accounts of Jesus claiming to be the personification of God the Father, their brain…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 21 2013,11:10)Colter.The fact that you believe in a Trinity at all proves your foundation is faulty. No amount of verses and no amount of human reasoning can stand when the foundation is wrong.Even if you think the building is strong, if the foundation is weak, it will all collapse.Your deck of cards has already fallen by the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,08:06)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,04:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,14:25)Colter, do you believe Jesus IS the Father God?  YES or NO?YesAt the same time the disciples were right to refer to the Father as distinct from the Son in an absolute sense.Hmmm……….Seems like you're giving mixed signals.  But t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 21 2013,08:11)Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,13:50)No one gets to the Father except through him.Why go THROUGH Jesus to GET TO the Father if we have already REACHED the Father when we reach Jesus?   Jesus is the mediator BETWEEN man and God, Colter.  He is a priest OF God.Because we circuit through Christ as we make our w…[Read more]