Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 01 2008,13:25)Mandy……..God the father wan't childern he can relate to in a relationship of Father sons and daughters, not just robots but childern, who have experienced right and wrong, so to (cause ) that to happen, He put us in these physical bodies and as a result physical or carnel influences work in us (causing)…[Read more]

Since this came up in discussion: the idea of the reptilian brain is a theory developed by Paul MacLean that attempts to examine the evolution of the human brain. According to this theory, the following three distinct brains emerged successively in the course of evolution and now co-inhabit the human skull: Reptillian, Limbic (mammals) and…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 30 2008,10:43)Hi KJ:I am not just offering opinions.  I know, as I have told this forum on many occasions, by the Spirit of God dwelling within me.And let me just answer you and all of these posts that are coming my way over this discussion with you, go ahead and throw your opinions and accusations my way, I was expectaing…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 30 2008,08:45)Cato, you asked a question about why God had a chosen people.  The calling was to Abraham and to his seed.  God chose Abraham because God knew that He would be obedient.Gen 18:18  Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him? Quote [Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 30 2008,08:45)Hi Cato, Tim, Mandy, Stu and if there are any others:I am not swayed by your opinion of God and of me because I have given you my understanding of God's motivation for destroying the children of the wicked.  It is typical of mankind beginning with Adam to blame someone else rather than to take the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 30 2008,16:52)to all…..the key is the definition of (FREE) Will. The definition i heard was to choose something without (any influence) of any kind whether past experiences or teachings of any kind, it is to pick or choose without causality being presnt. To me that is impossible, so Free Will can't exist IMO. I…[Read more]

Without will there is no choice, without choice there is no good or evil.  If God did not desire our independence of will he would have made us perfect from the start.  Without choice why does Eve take of the fruit against God's dictate?  Does God give one command and then order it broken by another?I think the majesty of nature alone is su…[Read more]

On the other hand there is Ezekiel 5:6-8   Yet in her wickedness she has rebelled against my laws and decrees more than the nations and countries around her. She has rejected my laws and has not followed my decrees. “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: You have been more unruly than the nations around you and have not followed my…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 29 2008,15:39)You know KJ. I am faced with a very tough decision.  I don't know who to believe now, you or God.You set up a false choice it is not between KJ and God, it is between KJ and a group of anonymous authors who claim to know God's intent, not the same.  Scripture does not equate with God, it is men's attempt to e…[Read more]

I doubt that the time, place and circumstances of our births are random, there are reasons and methods behind such things so yes to a certain extent there is a point to the idea of destiny.  As the Bard once put it, all the world's a stage, we do not appear to pick part we play but how we play the role given, that is all us and that is how we…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 29 2008,11:33?[/quote)Hi Mandy:Again, children are the responsibility of the parents, and that is the way that God looks at this.  The destruction of the children of the wicked is punishment to the parents.He is a God of love, but He is also a God of justice.  Hogwash to you, but not to me.Dear 942767,If God is a god of J…[Read more]

Godby Kahlil GibranIn the ancient days, when the first quiver of speech came to my lips,I ascended the holy mountain and spoke unto God, saying,”Master, I am thy slave. Thy hidden will is my law and I shall obey thee for ever more.”But God made no answer, and like a mighty tempest passed away.And after a thousand years I ascended the holy mountain…[Read more]

Godby Kahlil GibranIn the ancient days, when the first quiver of speech came to my lips,I ascended the holy mountain and spoke unto God, saying,”Master, I am thy slave. Thy hidden will is my law and I shall obey thee for ever more.”But God made no answer, and like a mighty tempest passed away.And after a thousand years I ascended the holy mountain…[Read more]

WJ,God, in creating the universe and humanity as part of same, gave us life, sentience, reason, conscience and independence.  He set up a universe of laws where cause and effect rules.  I believe he had a plan and that plan will come to fruition in the course of time.  That man would become self serving and often evil was of course foreseen.  Y…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2008,19:15)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ April 25 2008,02:11)Incidentally, how is this different than what Kejonn, Cato, and others promote?  They essentially subscribe to believing in God for positive reasons, like wonder, gratitude, or love, whereas Christians are often warning unbelievers to believe in Jesus “or…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2008,18:33)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2008,07:36)Quote (Cato @ April 23 2008,23:51)How are my criticisms of a collection of works that say God came down to earth and wrestled with a man unwarrented?Cato, you have a right to criticize all you like. But when you say that the acts of God in the OT scriptures…[Read more]

I don't have any problem with poetry, just I wonder why this poem ranks as holy scripture? Why was this included in God's word? Gee I hope they are married, we wouldn't want to promote fornication of any kind now would we.

Not that I have any problems with the verses, but how is this counted “holy scripture” inspired by the Almighty and part of  of faith and truth?Song of Solomon 7  How beautiful your sandaled feet,       O prince's daughter!       Your graceful legs are like jewels,       the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 20 2008,04:50)[The Genesis account isn't written like those other stories of course.  It tells us the precise year, month, and day when the Deluge began, when and where the ark came to rest, and when the earth dried off.  Details about the ark are also precise–the layout, the measurements, and the material used to build it.  …[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2008,07:36)Quote (Cato @ April 23 2008,23:51)How are my criticisms of a collection of works that say God came down to earth and wrestled with a man unwarrented?Cato, you have a right to criticize all you like. But when you say that the acts of God in the OT scriptures are untrue based on your belief in God being…[Read more]