Hi shimmer, Good morning …..I see you are up bright and early.  Did not expect anyone to be here….Have a nice day…..Peace to you Irene

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 14 2010,15:05)I don't have a problem with any of these points. I have a problem with later creeds and the enforcement of them.t8 I am really surprise that you do not disagree with any of those points. You believe in the catholic church? Even though it is written in small letters, I could not find any other church but the Roman…[Read more]

Kathi! ONe more thing, I don't care how many MEN will go along with you or n this, I will not….no matter what anyone says. I am not a respecter of men. I( respect God and I worship Almighty God only…..I honor Jesus because He is My King of Kings and Lord of Lords….Good night Irene

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,15:37)Quote (Baker @ Nov. 13 2010,23:04)Kathi!  Do you believe that the trinity is wrong?  I do.  Do most Churches now believe in the trinity?  I think yes….Go ahead if you want to do this, but leave me out of it….There is no unity here…Irene.Irene,The term 'trinity' means different things to different peo…[Read more]

Kathi! Do you believe that the trinity is wrong? I do. Do most Churches now believe in the trinity? I think yes….Go ahead if you want to do this, but leave me out of it….There is no unity here…Irene.

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2010,14:13)Pierre,If I remember correctly the Seven Day Adventist teach that the Arch Angel Michael and Jesus are the same.  Michael being King of the Angels.I hold that it is a false teaching.Kerwin, It was Jesus that created al through Almighty God. He also created the Angels. I don't believe that Christ is an Angel.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,13:30)Irene,This is not about saying the Apostle's Creed in church necessarily, it is more about whether it is scriptural.  You should understand the difference of capital and small letters.  You preach that Lord and lord are different and even God and god indicate a difference but you do not acknowledge that here w…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 14 2010,14:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,20:30)Irene,This is not about saying the Apostle's Creed in church necessarily, it is more about whether it is scriptural.  You should understand the difference of capital and small letters.  You preach that Lord and lord are different and even God and god indicate a d…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Nov. 14 2010,13:32)I have family who are Greek Orthodox, and Family who are Roman Catholic. Some of them pretty big in the church too. Priests and all. I know alot about Orthodox, I have studied it well. Theres a big difference.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Churchshimmer! OK I did look it up, however their…[Read more]

Mark ! Please understand that it is because of the trinity and the Mass, that we left the Catholic Church. The trinity is three in one. The Holy Spirit is not a person. You will find many Scriptures that will say that the holy Spirit is God's Holy Spirit. Also Jehovah God is above all inEph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,12:35)So Irene, Is the OT Catholic also?  What about the NT?  The vast array of non-Catholic churches use the OT and the NT, is the Bible for all universal churches or just for the Catholics, should we discard the Bible, Irene?  Should we discard the truths that are written in the Apostle's Creed because the Ca…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2010,12:16)Pierre,The teaching beginning in John 10:1 is calling the coming kingdom of heaven the sheep pen and only the lost sheep are outside of it.  The teaching beginning in 10:14 is speaking of The Samaritan/Jews as being inside while the Gentiles are outside and thus the other sheep.Kerwin, I have no idea how you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,12:16)Irene,There is a difference with capitalizing the 'C' in Catholic and not capitalizing the 'c' in catholic.  You don't seem to want to recognize that.  The capital 'Catholic' indicates the Roman Catholic church, the 'catholic' church indicates the universal church.  I suppose if you have only known it in a Ca…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2010,09:38)I can't see where Gene or Kerwin would have a disagreement with it, nor any Christian denomination.  Of course, the trinitarians would have to start fast-talking to change the meaning of “only begotten”!  mikeMike!  The Catholic Church believes just like WJ does.  The Priest I talked to today said it is bec…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 14 2010,12:01)Hi Mike,Maybe this can be a creed we can all agree on then and bring us some unity here in the 'Believer's' section.Kathi! You have no idea what you are getting in to, if you say I believe in the holy Catholic Church….Did you even read my article before you posted this? You will never have me agree to that.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2010,08:24)Hi All,I find it all “scriptural”, knowing that “catholic” simply meant “universal”.  It still does, but today it doesn't really represent the universal Church of God, but a sect.I would only take issue with #3.  The words they use are “scriptural”, but the meaning is lost in the way they word it, I t…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 13 2010,20:10)Shimmer,Mike has no Spiritual side. That's why he thinks in the fleshly way. If he thinks God ca be put in a container then even that, if anything, that he speaksas truth, is of no value. For his 60% truth is totally overturned by his 40% fallacy.Mike can't reconcile scriptures with fleshly thinking.He thinks…[Read more]

Mark this one….

Mark!  Since Mike and Marty are so busy all the time, I thought I would say what they believe.  Nothing wrong with that….Why are you mad at me, you never went back to the other post, and answered it, why? In message to the devil….

Quote (seekingtruth @ Nov. 13 2010,21:18)I had read years ago thay catholic meant universal, which spiritually I agree with, but as the RCC is the first thing to come to mind for most, I chose to disagee with that line.My opinion – WmYou are right to disagree with what the Catholics believe.  Geog thinks that the Mass is the abomination, since…[Read more]