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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 18 2011,09:04)IreneGen 2:7   And the LORD God formed man the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. did God made a body for the spirit soul and then ,breath of live and became a living soul ??PierrePierre! You are not understanding what that Scripture in…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 18 2011,10:02)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 18 2011,16:07)Pierre!  Gen 2:7   And the LORD God formed man the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.  Eze 18:4   Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sin…[Read more]

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    Pierre! Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. It is our body that die, not our Spirit…..Peace and…[Read more]

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    I have read again what was said. To believe like Tim Kraft that now we are perfect, is dangerous. That to me is a self-righteousness attitude. We should all be humble. To grow into what Jesus teaches, in time we will. However like Paul said is true. We do what we don't want to do, and don't do what we are to do. It is sin in us that…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    To All! It seems there is some confusion, what Soul, Body and Spirit is. God is Spirit. What is a Spirit? Can you see a Spirit? No….so we can't see a Spirit. Can we see a fleshly Body? Yes. can we see a Soul? Scripture in Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 16 2011,23:25)Kerwin…….To me the simplest explanation of what a Soul is, is found in Genesis , GOD created or molded a BODY when GOD did that it was a soul, but not LIVING and when GOD Breathed into His Nostrils the breath of LIFE (SPIRIT) He THEN became a “LIVING” Soul, before that he was a Body or a dead Soul not…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    I like to add here, when I talked to Georg about this He said that not only our Spirit(mind) is preserved, but that God is giving us another Body like the one we had.  His reason is how would anyone recognize us if it would be different.  I do believe that there are  Human beings that will be Spirit only like Jesus is, the Elect who will reign wi…[Read more]

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    Mike!  I voted that God is a title, Kerwin you are wrong God is not His name.  In the footnotes of the Rye study Bible tells us that because the translators were afraid to use Jehovah or Yahweh in Hebrew in vain, so they used a title instead.  In Ancient times God was used for a Mighty One often.  There are many scriptures that use God or LORD in…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 8 months ago

    Kerwin! Why do you believe that the Soul is being preserved for our resurrection from the death? That is what t8 states there. While I and Georg believe that God preserves our Spirit in us which is our mind like Scripture says inPhl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: ask yourself what is that? Is that not Spirit?…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 15 2011,12:07)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 15 2011,08:40)Thanks Irene.God saves our soul and gives us a new spirit and body. That can only mean that we are the soul as that is the only part that is not replaced.Also, if the spirit and flesh is prompting/tempting me, then I cannot be either the spirit or the flesh, leaving the soul as…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    In our Soul that sinneth it shall die. As inEze 18:4   Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.  Paul says that there is a Spirit in men, this Spirit is your mind, the reason Paul referred to it as Spirit is because it is the invisible part of men……..At o…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 14 2011,07:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 14 2011,03:39)So much is said there as regards to what you are saying and as well, about Physical Bodies because yet even while we have these Physical bodies we are not in the flesh but in the Spirit and therefor our bodies are spiritual bodies. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

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    t8Jesus did not tell the apostles to go into the world and “convince” them, he told them to preach the gospel as a “witness”; Just as Sodom and Gomorrah will have a chance to learn the truth in the resurrection, so will Stu and others. Georg

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 08 2011,07:14)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 07 2011,20:49)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2011,13:15)Irene said:Quote I don't believe that there is an in between, after Jesus rose from the death.  Also the doors were shut when he appeared to the Apostles, they thought they had seen a Ghost….and Maria Magdalene did not recognize…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 10 2011,12:56)Yes Ed, It was not included in the cannon. It was written in 70ad, about the same exact time of the destruction of the temple, 30 years before the book of Revelation. I do not depend on it as “sacred” scripture, but as I read it , it rang true to my spirit as “inspired”, much like when I found the book of…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 13 2011,16:55)The clue here is that he was in the form of God and was found in the form of man. Later we are told that returned to the glory that he had with the Father before the world begun. The glory that he has now, is the glory that he had before the world begun.t8, that is what scriptures say, and I agree with you.  However…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 13 2011,17:05)Quote (Baker @ Feb. 13 2011,12:04)Gene!  What is your nature?????Baker…….> Again as i have noticed you are the Personal attackers Here as you have with many who have left this site. Alway starting the personal attacks then when some one comes back at you you holler foul.  I think that question would be b…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2011,14:38)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 13 2011,20:46)Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 13 2011,12:04)the statement in this scripture “in the form of God” what does it mean??Some translations use “the nature of God”.T8being in the form or being in the nature of God would be similar ?if so then we can establish that God and Christ are…[Read more]

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