To look for the answer in the Bible, here is what it says about Anti_Christ…1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: . 1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come…[Read more]

Paladin! The problem with your logic is, that there are 50 some Scriptures that you would have to interpret your way. What makes YOU think you know it better then the translators do? Peace Irene

Quote (Lightenup @ May 01 2011,15:25)Keith,I'm back…my electricity is now working again after 72 hours.  I read through this thread and I think a one on one 'discussion' would be more effective, don't you?  It gets very distracting with all those who deny the deity of Christ posting as well.  I really don't want to debate, just discuss re…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2011,03:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2011,11:04)Good post Keith.Thanks MIkeUnlike Irene you didn't find fault. WJKeith! I found you did'nt finish the job yiou started, because you left out that He also was the firstborn of all creation. Do I have to give you those Scriptures again? Well I don;t think so…..…[Read more]

To All!  A lot was said in past posts.  The way I see it.  there are two chapters in the Book of Revelationthat speaks of the 144,000 chapter 7 and 14.Rev 7:1 ¶ And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on…[Read more]

Keith! I do agree with you that Jesus preexisted His birth here on earth. But what you did not say in yourpost is that He had a beginning.Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2011,01:42)Quote (Istari @ April 28 2011,17:04)Work backwards: if Jesus IS God – and he says we are to become like him – then he must mean that we too are to become GOD!OK JA Does it mean that we are going to become God if we are made after Gods image? Because it is his image that we are being changed into you…[Read more]

Marty! You still don;t get it. There are several Scrioptures that tell us, Jesus was only a Spirit Being…. And flesh and blood cannot inherit any Kingdom of God….The King of Kings is seated at the right hand of His Father who is a Spirit Being, and YOU think that His body also came from Heaven? Is that what you are trying to tell us?? Well…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 30 2011,07:56)Hi Guys,Thanks for your prayers.  We are now over 48 hours without electricity so here I am at the library again but don't have much time.  I'm charging my phones and such  Interesting time!  Keep praying for those who lost everything.Will be praying Kathy for all involved. Those were some Storms. I wat…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ April 30 2011,07:08)Kerwin and all,Please do not include yourselves in the 'WE' nor the 'US' as described in the Scriptures…Say instead 'They' and 'Them'.For the 'they, them, we and us' of the Scriptures are the Apostles, Saints, Elders and such as are called by God through Jesus whose names have been written in the book of life…[Read more]

Karmaria!   Georg has studied Ancient History a lot.  He also listens to thr History Channel on TV.  the first three centuries were brutal and bloody and Millions died for Christ.  All because Constantine changed so much.  we have the Roman calendar, not Gods.  The day starts at Midnight while Gods start at sundown.  The New Year starts in the co…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2011,07:48)Quote (Baker @ April 28 2011,12:10)Keith!  It's the same then the trinity!!!  What kind of Scriptures to you want all the put up???  And where in  the Scriptures does it say hypo-stasis?not even the word trinity is in the Scriptures…..IreneIreneIt is found in Heb 1:3 and I quote it above but here it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2011,11:52)Quote (Baker @ April 28 2011,11:02)Paladin!  Mal 3:1 ¶ Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.  Is this no…[Read more]

Oh, yes Keith, I have the same problem.  I also believe that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation. Scriptures prove it.Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Rev 3:14 ¶ And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beg…[Read more]

Keith!  It's the same then the trinity!!!  What kind of Scriptures do you want all to put up???  And where in  the Scriptures does it say hypo-stasis?not even the word trinity is in the Scriptures…..Irene

Paladin!  Mal 3:1 ¶ Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.  Is this not speaking of both, John the Baptist the Messenger, and Jesus who is the Me…[Read more]

Keith! When we belonged to the W.W.Church of God, I had to find out what hypo stasis, means. I am not sure if it is spelled your way this way…..It means the same then trinity. Three in one….Our Ransom House Dictionary say's besides other, a person of the trinity. Since that is the case, should it not be under that topic???Peace Irene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2011,10:47)Hi All,This is my post from page nine – my first post on this thread:Quote There has never been a known occasion in the history of the world where someone who was brought forth into existence wasn't also subject to a time when he DIDN'T exist.  I exist now because I was brought forth.  But because I was b…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 28 2011,00:29)Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,23:48)Paladin!  There are three Scriptures talking about the Mediator, you mentioned 1 Tim. 2:5Hbr 8:6   But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.  Jesus gave us a new co…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2011,11:09)Quote (Baker @ April 27 2011,09:18)Both Jesus as a man died, His Spirit went back to God, but Jesus never was deity before.  He was like the Angels.  All Son's of God.  I am not going as far to say that Jesus was one of the Angels.  Jehovah God sent Him to earth to die for us.  After His resurrection, Jeho…[Read more]