Quote (942767 @ Aug. 16 2010,07:43)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2010,05:43)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 15 2010,15:17)Hi Mike:If the scriptures don't convince you, what more can I say or add to them that would convince you.  Just look at the number of pages on this thread.He was fore-ordained.  He did not pre-exist as a sentient person.Love in C…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2010,02:32)Marian……>  sorry i did not mean T8 and Martian , I meant T8 and Mike. sorry brother.peace and love ………………..geneGene! Again you are denying Scripture….. Col. 1!6 states that through Jesus all was created….and John 1:3 also states that through The Word all was made…. And that Word…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,22:16)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,21:37)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,07:40)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,22:16)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,21:37)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,07:40)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:43)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:43)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,07:40)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,07:40)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 15 2010,13:08)Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,14:04)Sorry folks. Sometimes I must deal with the children. I am still looking for the rational to tell me the fruit of the doctrine of pre-existence. Show me how it benefits me and I will consider it.Martiani was looking at your remarks and i jump away of my computer screen to…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 14 2010,23:12)Georg,I am referring to Spiritual matters – One doesn't have to “Physically” Die to acquire a Spiritual body.. that was my point of saying “death IN THE BODY” rather than “death OF The Body” — I did think about it before writing…That is not what Paul is saying.1Cr 15:35 ¶ But some man will say, How are the…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the son's/word, beginning in Prov. 8:22-30.Why did John refer to Jesus as the word?…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,15:08)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the son's/word, beginning in Prov. 8:22-30.Why did John refer to Jesus as the word?…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,03:35)There are those that think Christ somehow became a spirit being after his resurrection. They use this scripture –1 Corinthians 15:45
So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL ” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.Is that what this scripture means?It is not that Jesus is a spirit b…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the son's/word, beginning in Prov. 8:22-30.Why did John refer to Jesus as the word? Here is the reason.God was never without his Word.There is no scripture that says…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,06:52)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,14:40)You ask, “””Was God ever without his Word?”””If you mean his son by, WORD, yes; you can read about his, the son's/word, beginning in Prov. 8:22-30.Why did John refer to Jesus as the word? Here is the reason.God was never without his Word.There is no scripture that says…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2010,04:04)Georg………So show (ONE) clear scripture that say this “JESUS EXISTED AS A BEING LONG BEFORE HIS BERTH” and i will admit you are right, not some  ambiguous scripture that can be taken different ways , but a clear specific scripture that say what you are saying.  I have never found any that say that G…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,02:19)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,03:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,08:43)Hi all!It has been claimed by some that the majority on this forum believed that Jesus was begotten before the ages or time as the Only Begotten Son of God born from Gods own body through procreation. When was Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,02:19)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,03:35)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 14 2010,08:43)Hi all!It has been claimed by some that the majority on this forum believed that Jesus was begotten before the ages or time as the Only Begotten Son of God born from Gods own body through procreation. When was Jesus…[Read more]

JustAskinIt is not “death in the body”, it is “death OF the body”; when the body dies, there is nothing alive in that dead body. Hear are some scriptures to make my point.Rom. 6:23 “ For the wages of sin is death…”Death is the opposite of life; you stop breathing, and you stop living.Ps. 104:29 “Thou hidest thy face, they are trouble…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Aug. 14 2010,19:17)To all,David (imo) has said it all – well done David.I started reading his post and every query he asked I started to answer – but reading on, he answered it in like manner… fantastic!Can ONE answer ever 'close a discussion'? No, – Why?Funny, I asked someone I knew about this very thing and she (Yes, my…[Read more]