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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2010,01:39)To All………..Any doctrine that cuts off our (identity) with Jesus is a false teaching and should be completely rejected. Jesus is SON OF MAN Just as we are, of the same Root Stock as we are. God took this stock and nourished it as it grew and grafted us into it and the same nourishment goes to us also…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2010,01:24)Georg………The branches get it nourishment from the same source as the vine does because it is part of the vine, The nourishment comes from the Water recieved from the earth, it goes up the roots and into the vine and it branches and gives it life. A branch is only an extension of the vine and can…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 05 2010,02:01)Georg……..You are right on this a Soul is a (BODY) with (SPIRIT) IN it. The spirit is simply (INTELLECT) of the MIND. GOD can destory us by simply not giving us a New Body, for when a man dies his thoughts (Parish) he is gone never to return (UNLESS) GOD the Father resurrects a Body and adds Spirit back…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 04 2010,23:54)Dbf, is it possible for you to write anything without your feminist bend.Please do not sin against the Holy Spirit by claiming it is a 'She'.Simple, dbf, whatever you think of the Holy Spirit, just don't post it so as to draw others into your iniquity. Restrain yourself with conscience and you may be…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 04 2010,23:46)George,Do you see the mistaken use of 'Nature' for 'Form' in Dbf's post?Jesus always had a Godly nature, but was not always in the Form of God.On earth, he was in the 'Form of Man' but had the both the nature of man, the capacity to sin, to be wounded, to be belittled, to feel physical pain, hunger, thirst,…[Read more]

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    Quote (JustAskin @ July 23 2010,11:09)Mike,First DEFINE your understanding of what “the FORM OF GOD” is.This is the crux of the matter for some.Some have substituted “Nature” for “Form”. Are you allowing this?If “FORM”, (SPIRIT) is not the nature of God, then what do you think it is? his shape? Georg

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2009,14:11)hi georg you quote PHl 1;18. do you know why Paul said this ?Yes I do know, because Christ commanded it, Mat. 28:19,20.But now you should ask, for what reason? has any one paid attention to the gospel?Paul gives us the reason.Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,…[Read more]

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    Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:36)In another thread the deception was that the Holy Spirit is God the Father. This thread the deception is the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ (the Word). I guess he can't make up his mind who the Holy Spirit is.Either way Spirit Elohim (feminine) cannot be either the Father (YHWH Elohim) or the Son.For proof of…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,07:38)To All, These are the verses that PROVE “The Word” is REALLY The HolySpirit”!Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI guess, to get a response from any one on your nonsense, is a compliment to you, is it not?Georg

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    Baker replied to the topic John 8:38 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:15)Hi All,Ready for another one?John 8:38 (New International Version)38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father.”Does this not clearly say that the person Jesus had “seen” things “in the Father's presence”?peace and love,mikeWhy are there so…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 03 2010,19:02)Hi All,I believe its Chosenone, Gene, and others that i cant remember make this Claim, that God does not want to see anyone perish therefore the End result is that everyone will be saved.I would like for them to prove that with Scripture and why they believe that everyone will be saved.They also claim…[Read more]

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    It is unfortunate that the translators have used the word, “spirit” and “soul”, interchangeably.Paul says there is a “spirit” in man, 1 Cor. 2:11. Why did he call it a spirit? because, as a spirit being, it is the only invisible part of man, it is his mind, with it we think and plan, etc.God has a mind/spirit, only his mind/spirit is Holy, ours is…[Read more]

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    martianIf you have a problem with the pre-existence of Jesus, you will have problems with his doctrine.Jesus is the vine, we are the branches.Branches get their nourishment from the vine, not from each other.Branches also grow at different rates.If you want to produce fruit, you don't look at the other branches, you go to the vine.Since you said…[Read more]

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    Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 04 2010,08:39)Georg,Where is this in Scripture?:Jesus was #1)a spirit being before he became man, after his job was done, #2) God gave him back his true nature, spirit.Frankly, I don't think you're looking for answers, your looking for arguments; I hope you had your fun.Georg

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    I fond this interesting since it not only has an explanation of the Spiritual, it also has a human one. Even a rock group…. Definitions of spirit on the Web:the vital principle or animating force within living things the general atmosphere of a place or…[Read more]

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    this is what google has…the vital principle or animating force within living things the general atmosphere of a place or situation and the effect that it has on people; “the feel of the city excited him”; “a clergyman improved the tone of the meeting”; “it had the smell of treason” a fundamental emotional and activating principle determining…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 04 2010,08:36)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 03 2010,11:57)We don't need a reason just as we don't need a reason to explain why the Angel of the LORD existed before Moses.It just is.It is up to us to accept truth humbly without motive.T8………..So you reason  “ours is not to reason why , ours is but to do or die” right?  The “…[Read more]

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    Math. 15:9 In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. The trinity is a doctrine that Quintus Septimius Florence Tertullian first came up with in the third century. The first Christians did not teach it…. It is said that the trinity is Tertullians best achievement to Christianty….It was Constantine who issued an…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic John 17:5 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 03 2010,14:51)Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:02)Rom 1:25(a) For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie,Hi David and Irene,2 Timothy 4 NIV1In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: 2Preach the Word; be…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Sep. 03 2010,08:08)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 02 2010,15:47)Hello!  This is going to be a very short post.  If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father???? I have asked this before and got no answer.  Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace IreneIreneI have answered you many times.So let me take another ap…[Read more]

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