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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Dear Gene,

    So I take it you don’t believe in “original sin’ or that we are born sinners because of Adam’s sin,but we all have the mere potential to sin with no natural inclination to that?That’s fine but what is Paul’s point about through one man’s sin condemnation came to all men.

    And what is the point of Jesus’ virgin birth?  “how can he be…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Dear Kerwin,

    Is Jesus separate from sinners? Did he sin? did he have original sin? did he have sinful thoughts so as to be tempted in all ways like us? If he had sinful thoughts  does that make him a sinner like us?

    As for  the verse you  ask it’s  Heb 7:26 and please look at any translation of it. And why would you even question it since if Jes…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Have I ever been tempted to turn stones to bread? no!  Have I ever been tempted to throw myself off a building with the faith God would save me with his angels? Thank God and the devil -no! Have I been tempted to worship the devil in order to become a world ruler -no! I guess I’m just not much like Christ am I. How about you Gene,are you like Christ?

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Have I ever been tempted to turn stones to bread? no!  Have I ever been tempted to throw myself off a building with the faith God would save me with his angels? Thank God and the devil -no! Have I been tempted to worship the devil in order to become a world ruler -no! I guess I’m just not much like Christ am I. How about you Gene,are you like…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Gene , How is it you totally ignore what I ask you about major Christian doctrines? the VIRGIN BIRTH !!! or ORIGINAL SIN !!!!!  I said nothing about Jesus being God or Trinity! The point is was Jesus a human like us or not? Can you understand that? Do you deny the virgin birth and original sin? If  you don’t deny it then your Jesus in not like u…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Dear Gene,no I wasn’t confused about what you call the doctrine of separation and perhaps I should’ve put those words in quotes.

    I ask you again quite simply,do you believe in Jesus virgin birth or in the church’s teaching of original sin? That is was Jesus born of a virgin and without original sin? For if he was then he is separate from us for…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Doesn’t it say somewhere that Jesus was separate from sinners? if this is true then is he separate from us ? Has anyone ever sinned after becoming a Christian? or never sinned after becoming a Christian? is it possible to sin or not after becoming a Christian? Does the prayer God have mercy on me a sinner apply to a Christian or maybe that’s…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Dear Gene,

    I feel for what you say,but what if I were to tell you that I was born of a virgin and have never committed a sin. Would you believe me? Why not ? Maybe you were born of a virgin and have never sinned either but the devil makes you think you have  but is lying.Is that possible?

    Do you think original sin is a true doctrine? or virgin…[Read more]

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    Kerwin, I said “God honors the broken heart and the contrite spirit he will not despise”-that is a truly repentant heart is what God honors.And of course with repentance comes obedience.And you accuse me of legalism over that? or preaching another gospel? You quote these verses of Jesus which say nothing against what I said. My point was about…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    Yes Kerwin,Jesus came to save humanity which is why Satan had nothing in him.

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    Kerwin,

    What? you sound like you are equating the gospel to the law of Moses!

    You say”the letter of the gospel”? I’ve heard of the “letter of the law” but not the “letter of the gospel “as you say.You turn the gospel into law and damn everyone with it except yourself maybe?

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    Dear Marty,

    Yes Paul does say the Rock that followed them was Christ. He doesn’t say the rock was the law or the ten commandments.

    Paul talks about “the law’ quite a bit in his letters as well as Christ and contrasts them in many ways,so why do you try to say he meant the rock that followed them was the law or as you say”the word of God”? If…[Read more]

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    Terra has a good word and to me it mattereth not what ritual form baptism might take but God honoreth the broken heart and the contrite spirit he will not despise.God looks on our heart while many people look on the flesh and the letters that kill and bring condemnation.

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    Dear Gene,

    St Paul declared Christ to be the rock and St. Matthew and Jesus declared St. Peter and his declaration of faith to be the rock.The name Peter as you well know means rock.He was no longer that Simon but rather Peter,and Jesus nor Paul called the Father a rock.

    As for the preexistence of Christ you must explain away many verses by…[Read more]

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    St.Paul declared that rock that followed the Israelites in the desert was Christ,and Christ preexisted in many forms but has been reincarnate in these last days as a Son for us.

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    AndrewAD replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 9 years, 7 months ago

    But was Christ really tempted by the father of lies? or did Satan just attempt to tempt him? and this was only orchestrated for our instruction?

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    Princess, my point in speaking of the whore and her daughters was to show those who speak of the RC church that way that they use the same theological arguments on many points just the same as the one they claim to despise.In doing so they show they are her daughters too. Why call your mother names and still follow her so hypocritically? People…[Read more]

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    Dear T8,

    No I am not opposing you but worship you for opening my mind to scripture. And here is a question for you;is Jesus Christ whom you worship greater than King David,or your mother,or other prophets? Do you consider him greater than the other humans you worship? is he on a higher celestial plane than other humans?  if so then does that…[Read more]

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    Can you explain it in Greek to make it say what you want? and was Nathan the son of David that the prophecies speak of? No! plain and simple

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    One need only to read it as it is written quite plainly concerning our topic.It’s you and your commentaries who add to what it plainly says in order to make it fit your theology. It’s you who are foolish quite simply.

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