Quote (t8 @ July 04 2012,18:16)1 John 11 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched —this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the F…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,04:30)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,21:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,13:58)So?  I've learned since then.  Besides, I don't remember what you said before.  Please lay out your understanding of those two verses for me.Hi Mike:Read what I have posted to t8.  Maybe, it will jog your memory.Love in Chr…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,13:58)So?  I've learned since then.  Besides, I don't remember what you said before.  Please lay out your understanding of those two verses for me.Hi Mike:Read what I have posted to t8. Maybe, it will jog your memory.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,13:49)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,19:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,08:48)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,09:00)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,18:14)Yes, Paul was writing about Jesus in his ministry on earth, and so, it was in the past relative to when Paul was writing…………..Fantastic, we have agreed upon something finally.  So, now we both agree that “existing in the form of God” is PAST tense.Phil 2 6 Who,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 03 2012,10:58)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,12:54)Hi t8:If you would read the scripture in context, you would understand that by the statement “I am” he was indicating the “he was foreordained before Abraham existed”.“I think therefore I am”.In this famous statement in English, what do you think the meaning of “I am” is?Hi…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2012,09:12)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,16:36)Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,01:15)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,20:08)Quote (terraricca @ June 30 2012,15:36)MartyQuote And he is before all of God's creation in the sense that God created every thing that he created by him and for him.  God's plan before the world…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 03 2012,09:06)MartyQuote Please show me how Jesus came down from heaven.Love in Christ,MartyJn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Manin those v…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2012,08:48)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES or NO?Yes.Hi Marty,And is it…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,11:43)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,18:20)Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,11:13)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:And so, which translation are you going to believe?This is probably what is the closest to describe what is meant:QuoteMSG ©We look at this Son and see the God who cannot be seen. We look at this Son and see God's…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,11:13)MartyQuote Hi Pierre:And so, which translation are you going to believe?This is probably what is the closest to describe what is meant:QuoteMSG ©We look at this Son and see the God who cannot be seen. We look at this Son and see God's original purpose in everything createdLove in Christ,Martywhat you quote…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,10:58)He “told” him?  Or “showed” him?  It seems you are calling them both the same thing.  My question is:  How do you know God didn't show Abraham the future when Jesus is on earth like He showed John the future in Revelation?You really don't, do you?  So your last point to t8 is null, void, and a diversion from…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,10:50)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,17:39)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,09:54)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,09:56)martysome people built their understanding in the bible from their very own believe,I BUILT MY BELIEVE AND ADAPT ALL OF MY UNDERSTANDING TO THE SCRIPTURES ,SO THAT I MAY HAVE THE TRUTH OF GOD IN MY HEART NOT THE SO CALL MEN UNDERSTANDING .That is good, and so do I, and if I do not understand, I ask God what…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,09:51)Quote (942767 @ July 02 2012,16:33)Hi Pierre:You say:Quote but Christ the son of God the creator does not mix with women and it says that his son was created BEFORE ALL CREATION ,AND THAT ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM ,if this is true then Christ preexisted his birth as a man, But no, the scripture does…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,09:54)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:23)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,01:14)Quote (942767 @ June 30 2012,20:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2012,10:14)Marty,Is it scriptural that John the Baptist called Jesus “the Lamb of God” – even though Jesus wasn't literally a lamb?  YES or NO?Yes.Hi Marty,And is it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 02 2012,10:02)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:54)He said: “Abraham rejoiced to see my day, and he saw it and was glad”, and he was talking about himself as he appeared to them, that is as a man, was he not?And what makes you think Abraham wasn't shown Jesus' day by God 2000 years before Jesus was made flesh?Surely John was…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,09:56)martysome people built their understanding in the bible from their very own believe,I BUILT MY BELIEVE AND ADAPT ALL OF MY UNDERSTANDING TO THE SCRIPTURES ,SO THAT I MAY HAVE THE TRUTH OF GOD IN MY HEART NOT THE SO CALL MEN UNDERSTANDING .Hi Pierre:Then that is good. The bible is our source for our…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 01 2012,18:45)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,16:45)Fair enough.  Then do mean that he pre-existed as a sentient person or not?Love in Christ,MartyI will let Jesus answer your question. And I hope the reaction isn't the same as when the Pharisees heard this.”Before Abraham, I am”.Hi t8:If you would read the scripture in context, you…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 02 2012,01:15)Quote (942767 @ July 01 2012,20:08)Quote (terraricca @ June 30 2012,15:36)MartyQuote And he is before all of God's creation in the sense that God created every thing that he created by him and for him.  God's plan before the world began was to reconcile the world unto Himself through His Only Begotten Son…[Read more]