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    Hi Pierre:You say:Quote now the above scripture talks about whom again about the 144k the bride of Christ ,also called the new Jerusalem ,Where does the scripture state that the “144k the bride of Christ”? Please post the scripture that states it that way.Thanks, Marty

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2012,07:20)Terra.Are you the bride of Christ,and also the child of Chist?Can you answer this??What is your believe.wakeup.Hi wakeup:Where do you get that we are children of Christ? Zion is another name for Jerusalem.Quote Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2012,09:04)Marty.I was referring to the physical.Born again does not occur at babtism,but in the resurrection. From the flesh to the spirit body.Born of the spirit.The renewing of the mind is not being born again physically; but the mind,the concept of thinking.A babtised person can always go back to his vomit.wakeup.No, I…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Wakeup:Without re-posting what I have stated relative to Judgement, I will try to answer your questions here:Every generation had a revelation of God and had an opportunity to repent during their life time. Those who lived during the time of Adam and Eve had their testimony about God and what happened in the Garden of Eden. As I stated Abel…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 26 2012,06:20)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 25 2012,23:07)Hi Pierrre:You are adding the word “only” to the scripture which states:Quote And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred forty four thousand, which were redeemed from…[Read more]

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    Hi Wakeup:I am not sure what you are saying to Pierre relative to we as Christians are not spirit yet. Obviously, we do not have our spiritual bodies yet and we will not have them until Jesus comes for the church.But if we have been born again, we are no longer in the “old flesh nature” that we became when we were in the world practicing…[Read more]

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    Hi Pierrre:You are adding the word “only” to the scripture which states:Quote And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred forty four thousand, which were redeemed from the earthThe scripture does not say that they are the “only ones” redeemed…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,12:35)MartyQuote Jesus gave his life for his bride whose bride we are.  We are members of body and joint heirs with himhow could million of people claim that they are members of the body of Christ ??? and yet Rev7 and 14 says that only 144k are redeemed from the earth ???so something as to be disregarded to allow that…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,12:30)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 24 2012,06:46)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,11:04)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 24 2012,04:28)Hi Mike:There is a difference between being born again from the dead (spiritual death or separation from God) and being resurrected from a physical death.  Jesus was the “first born again from a…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Revelation ch.19. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Wakeup:There will be 10 kings that will arise out of the fourth Kingdom which was the Roman Empire. They will be in power with the beast, the little horn.Quote Dan 7:23 ¶ Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down,…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 24 2012,11:04)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 24 2012,04:28)Hi Mike:There is a difference between being born again from the dead (spiritual death or separation from God) and being resurrected from a physical death.  Jesus was the “first born again from a spiritual death”.  Of course, he was also raised from a physical death, but w…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 24 2012,09:34)Marty.When the saints are resurrected,this means they have been given their reward already,no need to be judged again. wakeup.Hi Wakeup:Quote 2Cr 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things in body, according to that he hath done, whether good or bad.…[Read more]

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    Hi Wakeup:You say:Quote We are the CHILDREN OF GOD and therefore we can not be CALLED his WIFE. This has been misinterpreted,for centuries.Therefore hard to accept the truth,which says otherwise.Jesus is the bridegoom. He is the Son of God, but He is not God, and so why do you say that we cannot be his wife. We are God's children by the Spirit…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 16 2012,16:16)Marty,Believers are one flock…the Father and the Son are united as shepherds of the flock. The flock is not made up of the Father and the Son and the believers. What the believer's are one as (the flock) is different than what the Father and Son are one as (the shepherds). Yet, both groups are one (unity)…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Hi wakeup:I do not believe that all generations who have died will be resurrected to be judged.  The scripture states that:Quote Rom 5:12 ¶ Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:   Rom 5:13   (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imp…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Mike:There is a difference between being born again from the dead (spiritual death or separation from God) and being resurrected from a physical death. Jesus was the “first born again from a spiritual death”. Of course, he was also raised from a physical death, but with a spiritual body. However there were others who had been raised from a…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 23 2012,01:33)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 23 2012,00:51)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2012,21:11)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 22 2012,11:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,19:40)1. There is NO resurrection of the bad.But of the good only.2.The first resurrection is for the saints,resurrected in spirit.(they are judged and resurrected at the same…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 22 2012,21:11)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 22 2012,11:33)Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,19:40)1. There is NO resurrection of the bad.But of the good only.2.The first resurrection is for the saints,resurrected in spirit.(they are judged and resurrected at the same time). God already knows who belongs to him before he is…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 21 2012,19:40)1. There is NO resurrection of the bad.But of the good only.2.The first resurrection is for the saints,resurrected in spirit.(they are judged and resurrected at the same time). God already knows who belongs to him before he is resurrected.(therefore already judged).3. In the second resurrection:  the good,…[Read more]

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    Hi wakeup:Quote Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Quote 2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the…[Read more]

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