Pre-existence or preeminence

Hi DavilL:

You say:

…THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST…

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, andWHO IS TO COME, the Almighty.”

Who is this One we wait for..???

As if we don’t know – the previous verse tells us plainly..

“Look, He is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see Him, even those who pierce…[Read more]

Hi hoghead1:

I side with t8 on that. (meaning that you believe that the “Logos” in John 1 is Jesus, and that Philippians 2:6 is speaking about a pre-existent Jesus who was “in the form of God” prior to being born into this world in the likeness of human flesh.)

Well if that is what you believe, please explain what it means to be “in the form of…[Read more]

Hi hoghead1:

Doesn’t saying the “Word was God” make it clear the Word is God?  Why would it have to say the Was in the form of God?  I don’t follow you here.

 t8 uses Phillipians 2:6 to justify his belief that Jesus pre-existed, and he believes that Jesus is “the Logos” in John 1.

I saw this video and I thought that it would be helpful:

Hi t8:

Also, John 1 states “the Word was God”.   If this refers to the pre-existent Jesus.  Should it not read “the Word was in the form of God”?  The scriptures have made it clear that there is but “One God” and they identify Him “as the Father”.  He did come in the flesh although he was not born of the “sperm of man”.  Conceived of the Holy…[Read more]

Hi t8:

He existed in the form of God…

And so, you are saying that he existed in this form prior to his birth into this world.  What does that mean?  Please show anywhere in the OT where it speaks of him being in the form of God.  I just posted the vision of Isaiah 6.  Is this what you are talking about?

Love in Christ,
Marty

Did Isaiah Ch 6 see the Pre-existent, pre-incarnate Jesus, God, or what did he see?
6 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and w…[Read more]

Our commission is to go into all of the world and preach the gospel to every creature.  We should help anyone who needs our help, but the nation of Israel is a secular nation.  The are not the people of God unless they believe the gospel.  They do have the right to exist as a nation, and we should should support that right.

What we as Ch…[Read more]

Hi Gene:

I believe that the following scripture will answer your question:

Isa 11:2

And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Ed:

Hi Marty,

Because not all those living in the USA are believers does not preclude
our nation from being a Christian Nation. Did you somehow think that it did?

(What, in your opinion, is a Christian nation?)

Hi Ed:

All men were endowed by our creator by those all of those truths,  and He has also given us a “free will”, that is the freedom choose whether or not we will obey Him.  We must be a part of the body of Christ to be Christians.  A Christian nation will be a nation of born again believers.

Love in Christ,
Marty

First of all, the United States is not a Christian nation.   It may have been founded on Christian and Jewish principles  The church is to be a nation within society, “the Israel of God”.  God has already seen every thing that will happen from the beginning to the end.  I really do not see how Trump can do all that he says that he will do if in…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

You say:

did God came down from heaven and talk to man ?NO ,his angels did for he sent them ,now does this not mean it is God that talk to man ? I don’t think so ,the envoy is sent by God to say what God has to say and yes in this way God spoke to men .

(If you do not believe the scriptures, then discussing this with you is f…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

I am OK thanks for asking, and I hope that you and your family are doing well.

Pierre, I don’t quite understand what you are saying by your reply.  God dwells in all Believers by His Spirit.  His throne is in heaven, but He can be everywhere by His Spirit.

The Logos is that which God has spoken, and the scriptures state:
Hebrews 1…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

You said:

Gene

for pete’s sake read the scriptures opinions does not help at all ,

God was not in Jesus for God’s being does not climb in people for God is not a demon ,

(If God was not in Jesus, then why does Jesus say that He was dwelling within him?)

John 14:

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in m…[Read more]

I agree with that no man was born a homosexual, and I also believe that no man was born a sinner, but we all yielded to the temptation to sin, whether it be homosexuality or any other sin.

Jesus was a man, and he was tempted in every way that we were but he did not sin.  The scripture states that “sin is the transgression of the law”.  I know n…[Read more]