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    Quote (Ed J @ June 05 2013,13:48)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2013,13:42)Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,14:48)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,10:37)Hi Ed:What about the following scriptures:Quote 1Cr 15:51   Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,   1Cr 15:52   In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last tr…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Maybe to you, Pierre, and maybe also to Mike and T8 there is more than “One God”, and more than “One Lord”, but the scripture states to me as “a born again Christian, there is but “One God”, the Father, and “One Lord”, Jesus, my Lord”. I know that there are many that are called “gods” and that God called the Judges to whom the Word of God came…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,13:30)Quote (942767 @ June 07 2013,08:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:25)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,19:50)Hi Mike:I do not call my boss at work “lord”……When we obey his Word, we will be obeying our masters after the flesh.No Marty,I don't believe many of us today call our boss “lord”.  But in Paul's…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 06 2013,10:25)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,19:50)Hi Mike:I do not call my boss at work “lord”……When we obey his Word, we will be obeying our masters after the flesh.No Marty,I don't believe many of us today call our boss “lord”.  But in Paul's day, many Christians DID have earthly lords along with their heavenly lords…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2013,13:41)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2013,08:25)Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2013,13:03)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2013,07:50)Hi Mike:I do not call my boss at work “lord”, but lets look at 1 Co 8 and see what it states:Quote 1Cr 8:5   For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 04 2013,14:48)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,10:37)Hi Ed:What about the following scriptures:Quote 1Cr 15:51   Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,   1Cr 15:52   In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised in…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 05 2013,13:03)Quote (942767 @ June 05 2013,07:50)Hi Mike:I do not call my boss at work “lord”, but lets look at 1 Co 8 and see what it states:Quote 1Cr 8:5   For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)   1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Father, of wh…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Mike:I do not call my boss at work “lord”, but lets look at 1 Co 8 and see what it states:Quote 1Cr 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 1Cr 8:6 But to us one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom all…[Read more]

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    Hi Ed:What about the following scriptures:Quote 1Cr 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1Cr 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Quote 1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ June 01 2013,15:49)Quote (Ed J @ May 31 2013,08:34)Hi Wakeup,                Prophecy is given as  “a Day for a Year”,                                       *AND*                  “a time” is given as a thousand years.                  (time, times and a half is 2,500 yrs)                    WATCH THE VIDEOGod blessEd JQuote Okay. So tell me HOW you would obey your earthly lords like Paul directed when you insist that Jesus is LITERALLY your ONLY lord? Please explain.Like this:Quote Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; And even if it is as you say that the KJV should have used “through”, as “all…[Read more]

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    Hi Pierre:Please read what I have stated to wakeup, and then if you still have a question, ask. I don't want to have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again.Love in Christ,Marty

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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 24 2013,01:36)Quote (942767 @ May 19 2013,10:47)Quote (Wakeup @ May 13 2013,15:56)Quote (942767 @ May 13 2013,13:36)Hi Pierre:No, the 2nd resurrection as I understand it, is for those who have died in their sins who have not been judged. Love in Christ,MartyMarty.Since adam sinned,man has gone their own way,led by satan.And has…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Mike:Yes, I would obey my masters after the flesh as long as they were not asking me to do something contrary to the Word of God. I do service unto them as if I am doing the service unto the Lord.I worship God my Father now under the authority of my Lord. He did not say to worship him as God. And so, when I get to heaven, I will sing the…[Read more]

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    Hi Ed:If that is true, then what about the following scriptures:Quote Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty two months Quote Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which upon the waters of the river,…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,12:01)Quote (942767 @ May 27 2013,13:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,04:06)Marty,The above questions to Abe are also to you now, since you are now also using 1 Cor 8 as support for your understanding.Hi Mike:The answer is that God created all things “by him and for him” and without him was nothing made than was…[Read more]

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    Hi Ed:l believe that he is correct in saying that one cannot take one year of the 70 year period and asscribe it to a treaty that the Anti-Christ makes with the nation of Israel, and since I have been going along with this teaching, it means that I have to take another look at what I need to teach relative to this subject. I believe that he is…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2013,04:06)Marty,The above questions to Abe are also to you now, since you are now also using 1 Cor 8 as support for your understanding.Hi Mike:The answer is that God created all things “by him and for him” and without him was nothing made than was made”.  God is the creator, and Jesus is not, and he did not pre-exist…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Mike:I have answered your question relative to whether or not Jesus is “a god”, and that was the question that we were addressing. He is not “a god”, but he a partaker of “God's divine nature “God” in that “he is the express image of God's person”. Like he said: “he who has seen me has seen the Father”, and we also are being conformed to his…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 27 2013,05:56)Marty?  Abe?Good morning Mike:If you worship Satan as “god” then to you “he is a god” or if you worship anyone, including Jesus, or anything as “god” then to you that person or thing is “a god”, but if you do, that is termed “idolatry”.According to Jesus:Quote Jhn 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they…[Read more]

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