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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,13:11)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,19:36)Hi ike:Paul said that “the god of this world has blinded…”.  Is not that what he said?And so, through this he acknowledges that Satan is “a god” to those who are blinded by his deception, and so, yes, he is a god to those who obey him.Marty, how many times do I have to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,12:30)Really Marty?  Do you believe the guys who perform at kid's birthday parties really do magic?  Or do you realize they are illusions?   ???What man, now or then, can LITERALLY turn a wooden staff into a real snake?  Moses made it clear that these were not tricks by saying, “they did the same things”.So if the…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,10:38)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,08:50)Hi Mike:Please show me the scriptures relative to the Apostle Paul saying that Satan is “a god” or that he was “a god” to him.2 Cor 4:4.  And by “to him”, I mean “as far as Paul is concerned”, Satan is a god.  I didn't mean that Satan is Paul's god………… as should h…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,12:00)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,18:47)Hi Pierre:Are we going to go over this over and over again?I have already acknowledged that Satan is called “the god of this world”, and he is “a god” to those who obey him………..But he was “a god” to Paul, and Paul didn't obey him……….. so your reasoning is faulty…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 13 2013,11:30)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,18:22)The false prophet according to the bible will have the power to deceive by even “calling fire from the sky”, but this is a delusion, just as the magicians duplicated some to the ten last plagues.Marty brings up a good one, Keith.  He even includes his “justification” as to…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,11:29)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 13 2013,05:29)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,10:07)MartyQuote Please show me the scriptures relative to the Apostle Paul saying that Satan is “a god” or that he was “a god” to him.marty2Co 4:1 Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2Co 4:2 R…[Read more]

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    Satan who is called the “god of this world” does have the power to deceive and power to kill the body through men who obey him, and those imaginary gods that you have mentioned as well as the Hindu gods, and false religions, and false prophets are the means through which the devil deceives men and hinders or stops them from believing the gospel.…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,10:07)MartyQuote Please show me the scriptures relative to the Apostle Paul saying that Satan is “a god” or that he was “a god” to him.marty2Co 4:1 Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2Co 4:2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, n…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 13 2013,02:30)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 12 2013,21:25)Hi Judge Pierre:If you are accusing me of something, why don't you just come out and say of what you are accusing me.Love in Christ,MartyMartyGod forbid me to say or think such a thing ,you have ask a question I have answered it ,NO MORE NO LESS ,I am not your judge ,you are…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 11 2013,05:51)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 08 2013,03:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 07 2013,08:42)Marty……. Yes we are to bear witness , but to change a persons heart and mind is a process that only God can do. unless The Lord builds the house the weary builders toil in vain, unless The Lord is the cities shield, the…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Judge Pierre:If you are accusing me of something, why don't you just come out and say of what you are accusing me.Love in Christ,Marty

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,05:37)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2013,10:57)But to a born again Christian, to me, he is not “a god”.So to Paul, he was a god.  But to you, a better Christian than Paul apparently, he is not a god?Marty, in essence what you are saying is:  According to the God-inspired scriptures, and those servants of God who r…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 11 2013,03:38)But Marty,It was the Apostle Paul who called Satan a god, right?And Paul didn't worship Satan, right?And Satan isn't one of God's representatives, right?So how can Paul call Satan a god when all of your self-imagined criteria are not being met?Hi Mike:Satan is called “the god of this world” because, as…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,17:02)“worshiped.  There are many gods in heaven and on earth whose job it is to represent the one true God.  Those representatives are not worthy to be worshiped and the loyal ones are disgusted that anyone would think of doing so, much less do so.god is just a word, and is used to convey different ideas according t…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,11:30)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2013,05:01)Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,09:44)Marty,The Koine Greek and Englis seems to loose some of the Hebrew meaning as there is only one true gods(elohim).  In English we try to regain some of it by capitalization.  God is God and not a god.  A god is gods representative, whether lo…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,09:44)Marty,The Koine Greek and Englis seems to loose some of the Hebrew meaning as there is only one true gods(elohim).  In English we try to regain some of it by capitalization.  God is God and not a god.  A god is gods representative, whether loyal or not.Hi Kerwin:He is “The God”, and for me, as a born again Ch…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 10 2013,05:08)Marty,All I know is that Scripture calls both angels and man god.  God is  sometimes called elohim(gods) as are those others hold equivalent to him. I also know that angels were present when gods stated “let us make man in our image, and our likeness” and some angels bear the outer likeness of mankind.Hi K…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 09 2013,11:45)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 08 2013,08:40)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2013, 10:18)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 07 2013,10:27)And this verse of scripture, the serpent is speaking to Eve, and he is correct they became “as gods knowing good and evil”, but neither one of them became “a god”.Hi Marty,Thanks for your answer.…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 08 2013,10:18)Quote (942767 @ Aug. 07 2013,10:27)And this verse of scripture, the serpent is speaking to Eve, and he is correct they became “as gods knowing good and evil”, but neither one of them became “a god”.Hi Marty,Thanks for your answer.  Your input and insight is always welcomed and considered by me.Although in…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 07 2013,08:42)Marty……. Yes we are to bear witness , but to change a persons heart and mind is a process that only God can do. unless The Lord builds the house the weary builders toil in vain, unless The Lord is the cities shield, the guards maintain a useless watch. Jesus said this,   “”NO” man “”CAN” come unto me…[Read more]

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