942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
And to t8's point relative to the following scripture in another restricted thread:Quote John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.No man up to this point had seen or understood God's true character, but this man who is the Only Begotten Son, he has seen Him, and…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2013,12:26)Marty,Mike, although running as fast as he could, was unable to win the race.Do you see the PRESENT tense word “running”?Do you see that since the sentence AS A WHOLE is a PAST tense statement, “Mike WAS running as fast as he could” is implied?Now, compare that with the entire statement of Phil 2:6-8, for it…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic False gods/idols vrs the one true god in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2013,12:29)Oh I've got a lot more arguments, Marty.What we've run out of is ANSWERS from you.
Please tell me how Jehovah could say, “THERE IS NO OTHER ROCK”, when we know many rocks exist.Or better yet, simply tell me if His words in Isaiah 44:8 are to be taken LITERALLY by us.Are they? YES or NO?No, Mike:We have a…[Read more]942767 replied to the topic False gods/idols vrs the one true god in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Mike:We have already stated there were other “so called gods”, but the scriptures states that there is “Only One True God”, and so, you can compare anything you want to this, but it will not change the scriptures.I believe that you have run out of arguments, and the case is closed.Love in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic False gods/idols vrs the one true god in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2013,11:45)Marty, What about Isaiah 44:8?NRSV ©There is no other rock; I know not one.Is Jehovah LITERALLY the ONLY rock in all of existence? Or is the meaning of His words more like the Message Bible translates them?There's no Rock like me that I know of.Which one?Hi Mike:Maybe not, but He is only Living Rock who c…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2013,08:33)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 17 2013,18:31)It is written that he existed in the form of God, emptied himself, came here in the flesh, was obedient to God, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of God in the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.In case you missed it. He…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,09:43)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 20 2013,02:42)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,14:54)Marty.BEFORE JESUS WAS BORN:Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD **the King of Israel**, and **HIS REDEEMER** **the LORD of hosts**; **I am the first, and I am the last**; and beside *ME* there is no God.THE KING OF ISRAEL,SAID: BESIDE *ME* THERE…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 19 2013,14:54)Marty.BEFORE JESUS WAS BORN:Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD **the King of Israel**, and **HIS REDEEMER** **the LORD of hosts**; **I am the first, and I am the last**; and beside *ME* there is no God.THE KING OF ISRAEL,SAID: BESIDE *ME* THERE IS NO GOD.HIS REDEEMER DID NOT SAY THAT.*THE KING* OF ISRAEL **AND…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Hi Wakeup:Who said that Jesus was only God's spokesman? He is that. But this is what God our Father revealed to humanity, saying: Quote Mat 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Mat 16:14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: so…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 19 2013,02:12)Marty……You have posted it right,and I believe Wakeup agrees with you to brother.Peace and love to you and yours…………………..geneHi Gene:I hope that we are making progress, so that we can all teach the Word of God in truth.Love in Christ,Marty
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 18 2013,16:21)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 18 2013,12:34)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 18 2013,07:25)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 18 2013,03:42)Hi Wakeup:You are not reading what I have posted, and seeing what the scriptures state. hJesus is not the first baby born on this earth, but he is the first baby born on earth who was conceived by the Holy…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Hi Wakeup:I will just post the following scriptures, and let you decide. Yes, Jesus is the bread of life that came down from heaven.Jesus said the following:Quote John 6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic False gods/idols vrs the one true god in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Hi Mike:So, He is Elohim, the God of gods, and the LORD of Lords, and we have shown that although people of the nations worshiped different things or persons as gods, that they were not gods at all, and so, they are “so called gods”, and so, He is the God of these “so called gods” that have no power at all.But yes, let's use the definition…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 18 2013,07:25)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 18 2013,03:42)Hi Wakeup:You are not reading what I have posted, and seeing what the scriptures state. hJesus is not the first baby born on this earth, but he is the first baby born on earth who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, is he not? In fact there is no other that was born this way or w…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Hi Wakeup:You are not reading what I have posted, and seeing what the scriptures state. hJesus is not the first baby born on this earth, but he is the first baby born on earth who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, is he not? In fact there is no other that was born this way or will there ever be.You tell me what Jesus was before he was born into…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:11)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 16 2013,05:26)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,15:08)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,11:42)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30)Hi Wakeup:I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,15:08)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,11:42)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30)Hi Wakeup:I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,09:30)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 15 2013,03:19)Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30)Hi Wakeup:I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is wh…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic False gods/idols vrs the one true god in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 11 2013,08:24)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 10 2013,12:55)…….if anyone could be considered “a god” it would be Jesus………..Okay then. Let's focus on Jesus for a minute.1. God foretold through Isaiah that Jesus would be called a mighty god.2. The writer of Hebrews 1:8 confirms that God Himself calls Jesus a god.3. D…[Read more]
942767 replied to the topic A false view of matthew 4:4? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 11 2013,13:38)Quote (942767 @ Sep. 11 2013,06:30)Hi Wakeup:I missed your question asking me if I believe that Jesus is the Word. I believe that he is the Son of the Living God through whom God has spoken to humanity. He is not “the Word”. The Word is what God has spoken through him. I have already given you scriptures. An…[Read more]
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